wrong, im not discussing any group here, im discussing the OP. You turned this into another opportunity thread to glorify takfiri terrorism. I am not going to give you any links fatwa or whatever, you have an internet connection and brains im sure, do it urself. You never refuted any claims. Fairytales dont count. Yes lal masjid had militants. No the news didnt report this but theyre at Adiyala. Dont blame takfiri terrorism on mufti shafi. Children are indistinguishable? Lol tsk tsk. You wanna blow up a public place and want to be excused because the public was 'inseperable'? Then lets not complain when the PAF does the same? You need to learn history, my job is not to educate you. Go learn where did the ibdependence movement started and when. The when should be your answer. Like i said im not going to waste my time posting links and spoon feeding u. And before you whine about killing innocent balochis like the secular liberals whine, spare some time to the hundreds of punjabi killed. Btw that attack against the bus few days back was claimed by BLA. Like hundreds of others. Someones giving the takfiris a competition. Those who rule by democracy are MUSLIM. While the system itself is kufr, it doesnt make te ruler kaafir. Thats the ruling, and only khwarij will go against ibn abbas's tafsir and make takfir.