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**jgztw2es** · 09-08-2011, 07:48 PM

aoa,

are you dead sure that just because you have syed in your name then you are from the Prophet (PBUH)'s family?i can name my children 'syed' who is gonna check?my family name is ansari but none of us thinks we are from the ansar. half of us put it with our names half of us dont.

You can put it in your children's name then you can Answer to Allah on the day of Qayamat.

If someone says he is, then you have no right to doubt him because your Dunia and Akhrat does not depend on him being a real syed or a Fake Syed.

brother taliban:
- it is wrong to feel proud of your lineage as it had nothing to do with you. it was Allah (SWT) who decided where to put you. a syed girl who feels awkward in a pathan house as their daughter in law because she feels they are of lower caste should be ashamed of herself. Pride is wrong when others are looked down. This pride has got nothing to do with Takabbur (that you look down on others). Don't you thank Allah that he gave you great parents, did not make you a beggar on the streets, made you a Muslim. Aren't you proud to be a muslim?

Hazrat Umar

married the daughter of Hazrat Ali

only because he wanted to create a strong connection with the family of Rasool Allah

. I posted the hadith somewhere on the forum.

No, if a Syed girl feels awkward, there is nothing to be ashamed of because this awkwardness is taken into consideration by Shariat as stated by Fuqaha.

It's the same as the Govt did'n't allow Saudi Girls to be married to non saudis. They are allowed now but with strict conditions!

- durood is for the Prophet (PBUH) and his ummat. not just his family. your interpretation is very strange. What does وعلي ال محمد mean?

there are factors that shd be considered when choosing a family:
-mother tongue: believe it or not you will find it very hard to raise kids if both parents have diff mother tongues. but its not impossible.
-piety: you quoted the hadith. that is the basis.
-wealth: really?you dont have to be super rich you just need to have enough wealth to not come on the streets. thats the lowest rung on the ladder. any 'pious' girl will not be materialistic so to speak. are you aware of the setting behind Hazrat Ali (ra) and hazrat fatima's marriage?hence it is against taqwa to reject someone who is earning a decent living and is pious but you want your daughter to be with someone who drives a ferrari and may not know jack about basic islam. believe me this happens.
- lineage: absolute rubbish. this syed and ansari and sheikh stuff is absolutely bogus. people actually feel proud of being known by this! any practising muslim with fear of Allah will not look down upon others based on their lineage. give me proof from the Prophet (PBUH) and his companion's time. dont quote desai.
- occupation: tells you whether the income is halal or haram and whether the boy will be able to provide in the future. You just differ on the lineage matter because maybe You don't like it!

I won't quote desai or anyone. You can email your question to Islamqa.

when nikah becomes difficult because of self-imposed ideologies and difficulties then your society will see a rampant increase in zina and fahashi. good luck beating the syed drum when your son or daughter becomes involved in an illicit relationship because you cannot find a filthy rich syed family. There are many more things to worry about than lineage. Well actually I don't think there are many cases of Syed girl falling into Zina because they can't find syed families. Please don't be emotional here.

the Prophet (PBUH) destroyed all such notions of lineage and nationalism during his last sermon. which means we are not to be proud of our family, our nation, tribe etc. they are for identification and thats that. Yes they are for identification and thats that! Don't make it more than that!

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jgztw2es Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 291 Senior Member	aoa, are you dead sure that just because you have syed in your name then you are from the Prophet (PBUH)'s family?i can name my children 'syed' who is gonna check?my family name is ansari but none of us thinks we are from the ansar. half of us put it with our names half of us dont. You can put it in your children's name then you can Answer to Allah on the day of Qayamat. If someone says he is, then you have no right to doubt him because your Dunia and Akhrat does not depend on him being a real syed or a Fake Syed. brother taliban: - it is wrong to feel proud of your lineage as it had nothing to do with you. it was Allah (SWT) who decided where to put you. a syed girl who feels awkward in a pathan house as their daughter in law because she feels they are of lower caste should be ashamed of herself. Pride is wrong when others are looked down. This pride has got nothing to do with Takabbur (that you look down on others). Don't you thank Allah that he gave you great parents, did not make you a beggar on the streets, made you a Muslim. Aren't you proud to be a muslim? Hazrat Umar married the daughter of Hazrat Ali only because he wanted to create a strong connection with the family of Rasool Allah . I posted the hadith somewhere on the forum. No, if a Syed girl feels awkward, there is nothing to be ashamed of because this awkwardness is taken into consideration by Shariat as stated by Fuqaha. It's the same as the Govt did'n't allow Saudi Girls to be married to non saudis. They are allowed now but with strict conditions! - durood is for the Prophet (PBUH) and his ummat. not just his family. your interpretation is very strange. What does وعلي ال محمد mean? there are factors that shd be considered when choosing a family: -mother tongue: believe it or not you will find it very hard to raise kids if both parents have diff mother tongues. but its not impossible. -piety: you quoted the hadith. that is the basis. -wealth: really?you dont have to be super rich you just need to have enough wealth to not come on the streets. thats the lowest rung on the ladder. any 'pious' girl will not be materialistic so to speak. are you aware of the setting behind Hazrat Ali (ra) and hazrat fatima's marriage?hence it is against taqwa to reject someone who is earning a decent living and is pious but you want your daughter to be with someone who drives a ferrari and may not know jack about basic islam. believe me this happens. - lineage: absolute rubbish. this syed and ansari and sheikh stuff is absolutely bogus. people actually feel proud of being known by this! any practising muslim with fear of Allah will not look down upon others based on their lineage. give me proof from the Prophet (PBUH) and his companion's time. dont quote desai. - occupation: tells you whether the income is halal or haram and whether the boy will be able to provide in the future. You just differ on the lineage matter because maybe You don't like it! I won't quote desai or anyone. You can email your question to Islamqa. when nikah becomes difficult because of self-imposed ideologies and difficulties then your society will see a rampant increase in zina and fahashi. good luck beating the syed drum when your son or daughter becomes involved in an illicit relationship because you cannot find a filthy rich syed family. There are many more things to worry about than lineage. Well actually I don't think there are many cases of Syed girl falling into Zina because they can't find syed families. Please don't be emotional here. the Prophet (PBUH) destroyed all such notions of lineage and nationalism during his last sermon. which means we are not to be proud of our family, our nation, tribe etc. they are for identification and thats that. Yes they are for identification and thats that! Don't make it more than that!
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