You can put it in your children's name then you can Answer to Allah on the day of Qayamat. If someone says he is, then you have no right to doubt him because your Dunia and Akhrat does not depend on him being a real syed or a Fake Syed. but there are fake syeds no?and what about the dunya and akhirat of those people obsessed with only finding syeds for their children?what would you call a person who rejected proposal after proposal of pious individuals and then got their daughter married to a secular syed?it is this mentality which i am speaking against Pride is wrong when others are looked down. This pride has got nothing to do with Takabbur (that you look down on others). Don't you thank Allah that he gave you great parents, did not make you a beggar on the streets, made you a Muslim. Aren't you proud to be a muslim? No, if a Syed girl feels awkward, there is nothing to be ashamed of because this awkwardness is taken into consideration by Shariat as stated by Fuqaha. brother i read the fatwa posted on this thread. there is nothing wrong with marrying a syed and finding it meritorious (as shown by Hazrat umar's example). that however does not prove syeds should not marry into other families. what is wrong is when a syed girl or her family would refuse to marry into a good pious family with a decent income because they are lower in rank. how is that not takabbur?i'll give you a detailed example. a non-syed family who are pious will have a religious environment and they enjoin good and forbid evil. their women observe purdah. their income is halal. yet the syed girl feels 'awkward'. why? because they are of lower rank?she thinks they are of less worth than her?being a syed automatically means she is better? if she or her wali has this thinking then syed or not. they are jahil. this awkwardness is takabbur and this awkwardness is again, what i am speaking against. i am proud to be a muslim but islam doesnt allow me to look down upon non-muslims. islam is not my right it is a gift from Allah. the more humble i am in gratefulness the better. similarly if im a syed i shd feel honoured. it is my identification. thats that. those who are not syed may be better muslims and have better taqwa. if i look down upon them it is a shortcoming of my own emaan It's the same as the Govt did'n't allow Saudi Girls to be married to non saudis. They are allowed now but with strict conditions! maybe they did it because of language difference. have u thought about that?language is a very very big barrier which mufti desai did not mention in his fatwa What does وعلي ال محمد mean? i will study more into this and will elt u know. however i dont see the relevance of this on this thread. being a syed doesnt make a person a better muslim. You just differ on the lineage matter because maybe You don't like it! correct. and i think lineage is irrelevant when it comes to choosing a good marriage partner.impractical and harbinger of fitna I won't quote desai or anyone. You can email your question to Islamqa. i dont like that site that much just so u knw There are many more things to worry about than lineage. Well actually I don't think there are many cases of Syed girl falling into Zina because they can't find syed families. Please don't be emotional here. well why do the have to find syed families thats all im asking? ive quoted my opinion above. tell me how im wrong Yes they are for identification and thats that! Don't make it more than that! identification becomes a problem once u start to feel proud and haughty because of it. while deciding for marriage the question of being a syed (or not being one) should not be made an issue.