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**nerohedfrs** · 08-08-2012, 06:37 PM

It sounds like a troll...too much use of the word kuffar.

The word kafir I am told comes from to mean 'cover over'. So farmers who plant seeds and cover them over with soil can be called kuffar in Arabic. This means that most humans have differing levels of 'covering over' of their hearts, those of us who are Muslims have started on the path to uncovering the layers of heedlessness upon our hearts...some are very advanced, some are behind. Kafir is usually translated into English by people who hate Islam to mean infidel...this is a mistranslation....some Muslims do use the word in this way as well. The kuffar the Quran describes were hearing the message from the Prophet

and were jejecting it in arrogance....we cannot use the same word for people who are not Muslim today because many have never heard the message of Islam. I would agree that some of the ruling elites are kuffar, if we speak generally.

Science and Technology are neutral generally....if we use halal methods and with an attitude of awe towards the creation we as Muslims would be ok. The problem is the methods are not halal, large sums of money going towards science research are based on riba and the attitude of Science generally is to profit from nature, to exploit it and to use the earths resources as if we own it all and we can do with it whatever we like. Extreme greed. We are so greedy that we are destroying the earths ecosystems and cultures....and we are blaming this on there being too many humans....when in fact the problem is greedy extremists using science and technology to make more for themselves. Muslims should study the sciences and their intention should be to bring humans back into balance with nature, to stop being so greedy and to leave the planet in a state where our grand children and future generations will not curse us.

I want to add the conception of corporations as written in western secular laws and the way they operate in scientific research and the way they exploit nature...can be described as the archetypal sociopathic personality:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

08-08-2012, 06:37 PM	#14
nerohedfrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 563 Senior Member	It sounds like a troll...too much use of the word kuffar. The word kafir I am told comes from to mean 'cover over'. So farmers who plant seeds and cover them over with soil can be called kuffar in Arabic. This means that most humans have differing levels of 'covering over' of their hearts, those of us who are Muslims have started on the path to uncovering the layers of heedlessness upon our hearts...some are very advanced, some are behind. Kafir is usually translated into English by people who hate Islam to mean infidel...this is a mistranslation....some Muslims do use the word in this way as well. The kuffar the Quran describes were hearing the message from the Prophet and were jejecting it in arrogance....we cannot use the same word for people who are not Muslim today because many have never heard the message of Islam. I would agree that some of the ruling elites are kuffar, if we speak generally. Science and Technology are neutral generally....if we use halal methods and with an attitude of awe towards the creation we as Muslims would be ok. The problem is the methods are not halal, large sums of money going towards science research are based on riba and the attitude of Science generally is to profit from nature, to exploit it and to use the earths resources as if we own it all and we can do with it whatever we like. Extreme greed. We are so greedy that we are destroying the earths ecosystems and cultures....and we are blaming this on there being too many humans....when in fact the problem is greedy extremists using science and technology to make more for themselves. Muslims should study the sciences and their intention should be to bring humans back into balance with nature, to stop being so greedy and to leave the planet in a state where our grand children and future generations will not curse us. I want to add the conception of corporations as written in western secular laws and the way they operate in scientific research and the way they exploit nature...can be described as the archetypal sociopathic personality: http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
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