DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Science and technology harmful and make us athiest?

**corolaelwis** · 08-09-2012, 10:29 PM

Who is Malangi Sahab?

Kafirs can be subdivided or not? Some might be hostile towards Muslims, other might be neutral or friendly. Depending on the context of the discussion taking place one would have to define all of these categories. As a shortcut it might be easier to say kaffir or kuffar...but it should be known that it is a shortcut. Just because the Shariah classifies people as kafir or Muslim, it does not mean we can then start using these terms without restriction or nuanced distinction. If this forum is a medium for dawa for example it is not good public relations to keep using the word kaffir all the time, especially when the enemies of the Muslims are trying to create an impression that Muslims are terrorists required by their religion to identify and kill all non Muslims or kaffirs, unless they convert to Islam. And Muslims think kaffirs are sub-human they can be cheated, lied to and killed with impunity. This is what the enemies of Islam are saying...if we use the word kafir in the same way it will reinforce their message.

Allah

uses Ya ayu han nas, as well as Ya ayu hal kafirun and the kafirun were those who had heard the message of Islam and were hostile towards it....not the undecided or those who had not even heard of Islam.

Whoever isn't a Muslims is classified as "Kafir" in the Shari'ah.
Whether he may not know enough of Islam and may thus be "justified", is another issue, but is still a kafir according to Shari'ah definition.

As Hadrat Malangi Sahab put it:

[http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...=1#post800443]

08-09-2012, 10:29 PM	#23
corolaelwis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	Who is Malangi Sahab? Kafirs can be subdivided or not? Some might be hostile towards Muslims, other might be neutral or friendly. Depending on the context of the discussion taking place one would have to define all of these categories. As a shortcut it might be easier to say kaffir or kuffar...but it should be known that it is a shortcut. Just because the Shariah classifies people as kafir or Muslim, it does not mean we can then start using these terms without restriction or nuanced distinction. If this forum is a medium for dawa for example it is not good public relations to keep using the word kaffir all the time, especially when the enemies of the Muslims are trying to create an impression that Muslims are terrorists required by their religion to identify and kill all non Muslims or kaffirs, unless they convert to Islam. And Muslims think kaffirs are sub-human they can be cheated, lied to and killed with impunity. This is what the enemies of Islam are saying...if we use the word kafir in the same way it will reinforce their message. Allah uses Ya ayu han nas, as well as Ya ayu hal kafirun and the kafirun were those who had heard the message of Islam and were hostile towards it....not the undecided or those who had not even heard of Islam. Whoever isn't a Muslims is classified as "Kafir" in the Shari'ah. Whether he may not know enough of Islam and may thus be "justified", is another issue, but is still a kafir according to Shari'ah definition. As Hadrat Malangi Sahab put it: [http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...=1#post800443]
	Quote