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**AndyPharmc** · 04-10-2012, 11:12 PM

Let me remind you of the third kalima:

سُبْحَان اللهِ وَ الْحَمْدُ لِلّهِ وَ لآ اِلهَ اِلّا اللّهُ وَ اللّهُ اَكْبَرُ وَلا حَوْلَ وَلاَ قُوَّة ِ الَّا بِاللّهِ الْعَلِىّ الْعَظِيْ

(Flawless is Allah and the Praise is of Allah, and (there is) no god except Allah, and Allah is the Greatest. And (there is) neither might nor power except with Allah, the Sublime, the Tremendous.)

Muslims today are weak because they don't practice their religion. They won't become strong by imitating the kuffar.

Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah

If you are accusing me of denying the kaleemas of Islam because I am saying Muslims should take back science then you are surely saying something strange.

And if you are accusing me of saying that Muslims should imitate the kuffar then you are well out of order brother.

Muslims today are weak because they are mostly bad Muslims (weak like the froth on water according to one hadith that may be referring to the present)

but they are also weak because they have inferior technology

this world is a place of trial - Allah does not do everything for us brother

if a good Muslim has only a bow and arrow for defense

and he has to defend himself against a kaffir in an Apache helicopter

- is it his weak faith that will see him killed?

04-10-2012, 11:12 PM	#28
AndyPharmc Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	Let me remind you of the third kalima: سُبْحَان اللهِ وَ الْحَمْدُ لِلّهِ وَ لآ اِلهَ اِلّا اللّهُ وَ اللّهُ اَكْبَرُ وَلا حَوْلَ وَلاَ قُوَّة ِ الَّا بِاللّهِ الْعَلِىّ الْعَظِيْ (Flawless is Allah and the Praise is of Allah, and (there is) no god except Allah, and Allah is the Greatest. And (there is) *neither might nor power except with Allah*, the Sublime, the Tremendous.) Muslims today are weak because they don't practice their religion. They won't become strong by imitating the kuffar. Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah If you are accusing me of denying the kaleemas of Islam because I am saying Muslims should take back science then you are surely saying something strange. And if you are accusing me of saying that Muslims should imitate the kuffar then you are well out of order brother. Muslims today are weak because they are mostly bad Muslims (weak like the froth on water according to one hadith that may be referring to the present) but they are also weak because they have inferior technology this world is a place of trial - Allah does not do everything for us brother if a good Muslim has only a bow and arrow for defense and he has to defend himself against a kaffir in an Apache helicopter - is it his weak faith that will see him killed?
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