Yes that is a good idea brother. With regards those hadeeth maybe I was stretching it with one or two of them to understand them in that way, but I'm pretty sure that I have read works by learned people in the past that interpret at least some of them as referring to other types of beneficial knowledge as well as Islamic ilm. __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________ Also I must say sorry to brother Maripat for distracting from the actual idea of the thread