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Dr Sahab.

Philosophy, in my miserable assessment, is the least productive academic discipline.

And I am also irritated by the phrase Muslim Philosophers used by advocate Ishaque.
A Muslim is a believer while one has to break one's head to get any such information about a philosopher.
A philosopher by the most refined definition is a lover of wisdom.
Beloved Rasolallah (SAW) told us that wisdom is to ponder over death a lot.
This unfortunately is no where near our our imagination when we talk about philosophy and philosophers.

It is not nice of a Muslim to ignore the reality so I have to put some things in the fore.
Present social, political, economic, financial and military environment is dominated by the materialist west.
They are there and that is the reality.
In their journey to their present position there enormous contribution of their philosophers.
It is difficult to ignore some thing that is successful.
People even say that nothing succeeds like success.

Then there is this statement of Mufti Muhammed Shafi Sahab (RA), quoted by Mufti Taqi Uthmani Sahab (DB).
Senior Mufti Sahab (RA) said that when you see falsehood flourishing then be convinced that they must be doing some thing along the lines of Haq too for falsehood does not have the property to flourish.

If we apply this paradigm to the western success then we can attribute their success to their hard work.
Allah (SWT) has rewarded them for that.
We can take an admonition to work hard and leave their philosophy to themselves.

I intend to visit the thread to read Dr76's posts.