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**PWRichard** · 07-24-2012, 08:47 PM

Assalamu alaykum

Is it Islam to give zero representation for ahnaf in haramain. Ahnaf are not complaining, they do pray behind the hanbali imams. When discussion on four musallah was started, we ask, as a solution was it correct to totally remove representation for the other 3 madhabs.

During Haj, there are tents outside minaa encroached into Muzdalifah for uqoof (stay).

These hajees have to walk upto 3 kilo meters for stoning the jamaarath (rammee).

After a night stay in Muzdalifah, after fajr they have to move two their tents in minaa. But these poor hajees' tents are already in muzdalifah. These creates total confusions.

Let me ask the KSA authorities, among these poor hajees who stay in muzdalifah, 80 percent are ahnaf? why?

We ask why this discrimination against ahnaf.

Its not because they ahnaaf, its because they cant afford the expensive hajj. there are two south african camps at Mina. one is just a short walk from the masjid & the other where you mentioned. the one near the masjid you would find most of the ahnaaf over there because in south africa the indians go the bucks. & then the camp at musdalifah are mostly shafis because we not indian & dont have the money. so it has nothing to do with madhab, dont turn everything into a madhab issue.
by the way one of the reasons why there are 50% hanafis in the world is because to khalifas (great world powers) were hanafi & made the hanafi madhab the system of rule. if Im not mistaken it was the Abasites & the ottamans. both of which had courts rule according to the hanafi madhab even in lands like palistine & egypt that were full of shafis & north africa that was full of malikis. so why was it ok then for the whole muslim world to be rulled by a hanafi system. i tell you why, its important to have unity. the madhab of Makkah is mostly maaliki so then let the maaliki lead salah-done. if for some reason this changes & a hambali is elected Imaam then so be it.

07-24-2012, 08:47 PM	#14
PWRichard Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 339 Senior Member	Assalamu alaykum Is it Islam to give zero representation for ahnaf in haramain. Ahnaf are not complaining, they do pray behind the hanbali imams. When discussion on four musallah was started, we ask, as a solution was it correct to totally remove representation for the other 3 madhabs. During Haj, there are tents outside minaa encroached into Muzdalifah for uqoof (stay). These hajees have to walk upto 3 kilo meters for stoning the jamaarath (rammee). After a night stay in Muzdalifah, after fajr they have to move two their tents in minaa. But these poor hajees' tents are already in muzdalifah. These creates total confusions. Let me ask the KSA authorities, among these poor hajees who stay in muzdalifah, 80 percent are ahnaf? why? We ask why this discrimination against ahnaf. Its not because they ahnaaf, its because they cant afford the expensive hajj. there are two south african camps at Mina. one is just a short walk from the masjid & the other where you mentioned. the one near the masjid you would find most of the ahnaaf over there because in south africa the indians go the bucks. & then the camp at musdalifah are mostly shafis because we not indian & dont have the money. so it has nothing to do with madhab, dont turn everything into a madhab issue. by the way one of the reasons why there are 50% hanafis in the world is because to khalifas (great world powers) were hanafi & made the hanafi madhab the system of rule. if Im not mistaken it was the Abasites & the ottamans. both of which had courts rule according to the hanafi madhab even in lands like palistine & egypt that were full of shafis & north africa that was full of malikis. so why was it ok then for the whole muslim world to be rulled by a hanafi system. i tell you why, its important to have unity. the madhab of Makkah is mostly maaliki so then let the maaliki lead salah-done. if for some reason this changes & a hambali is elected Imaam then so be it.
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