Thread: Salatul tasbeeh
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:46 AM   #7
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There is great dispute on the authenticity of this hadeeth. Imam Ibn Al Jawzee even considered it fabricated. Especially that its "Shaadh" (unique, uncommon, one of a kind etc). Imam Ahmad also didnt accept this hadeeth.

Among those who say its weak or fabricated are :

Ibn Al Jawzee
Al Tirmidhee
Ibn Taymiyah
Imam Ahmad (of the four Madhab)
Ali Bin Al Madini
Abu Ja'far Al Aqeeli
Ibn Al-arabi
Al-Aljooni
Al-Mzee

Among recent scholars is Sheikh Ibn Baz Rahimahu Allah, Shiekh Haatim Al Shareef, Sheikh Saleh Al Foozan, Sheikh Dr Salman Al Oodah.

Imam Ibn Hajar considered it weak, then later on became more accepting of it.

Al-Albani and others consider it Saheeh.

Shiekh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyah said

"Every prayer that consists of a specific number of verses or Suras, or Tasbeeh, is a lie (unauthentic unacceptable) by the consensus of the people of knowledge of Hadeeth. Except the Hadeeth of Salat Al Tasbeeh, for there are two opinions, and the stronger one is that its a lie even though some of the people of knowledge accepted it. This is why none of the Imams of the Muslims accepted it, rather Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal and Imams of the Sahabah considered it makrooh (makrooh in Hanbali Madhab can mean haram sometimes, not sure if thats the case here), and pointed to faults in its hadeeth.

Imam Malik and Abu Haneefah and Al Shafi'i and others, never heard of it at all. Those who consider it liked (mustahab) from Hanbalis or Shafi'ees, do so based on their own opinions, and not narrating from their Imams. As for Abdullah Ibn Mubarak, what he accepted wasnt the way it is done in the hadeeth with Tasbeeh before Qiyam, rather another way that goes with the known acceptable manner, so that a Sunnah based on a hadeeth with no basis isnt confirmed."

He also said "The Hadeeth of Salat Al Tasabeeh, was narrted by Abu Dawood and Al Tirmidhi, although none of the four Imams said this, rather Imam Ahmad considered the hadeeth weak, and disliked this prayer. ... " then he said "This is against Al Usool (fundementals) and anyone who ponders the fundementals will know that it is fabricated.


Shiekh Ibn Baz and Al Foozan when asked about it basically mentioned the two views, and the difference of opinion. But they considered it based on unauthentic narrations, that are Munkar and Shadh, since the manner is totally different from all the known prayers that are authentic. They say theres plenty of authentic prayers that are sufficiant such as Tahajjid witr Al Dhuhaa prayer etc.

As mentioned by someone else earlier, Al Albani and many others considered the hadeeth Saheeh.

So clearly theres a strong objection to this prayer, but with many accepting the hadeeth.

I dont know but if my mother asked me id recommend she follow something proven, totally authentic, and with no doubts.
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