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**wsbizwsa** · 07-24-2012, 09:39 PM

The uncreated Qur'an is referring to the uncreated attribute of speech of Allah. All Allah's attributes are eternal and uncreated.

Yes, the asha'ris have Kalam Nafsi which is the uncreated attribute, and kalam lafzi, which is the created ink and paper etc which corresponds to Kalam Nafsi.

If you say the Qur'an is created in the sense of the attribute, you are essentially stripping that attribute from Allah since Allah's attributes by definition can only be uncreated and eternal.

07-24-2012, 09:39 PM	#4
wsbizwsa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 360 Senior Member	The uncreated Qur'an is referring to the uncreated attribute of speech of Allah. All Allah's attributes are eternal and uncreated. Yes, the asha'ris have Kalam Nafsi which is the uncreated attribute, and kalam lafzi, which is the created ink and paper etc which corresponds to Kalam Nafsi. If you say the Qur'an is created in the sense of the attribute, you are essentially stripping that attribute from Allah since Allah's attributes by definition can only be uncreated and eternal.
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