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**Bobdilan** · 07-23-2012, 07:18 PM

another thing i have noticed is when my dad needs his "namaz" (the one his pir told him to read) he is just saying alif-lam-meem and other letters with what surahs start with. He does that for an hour , what the hell is all that about ?

I also think one time i heard my grandad(fathers pir) say that he knows what those words mean, and also there is x amount of secret meanings which Ali(ra) was told.

In history has there ever been any other misguided "sufis" such as these ?

sounds like some sort of taqiyyah. Are you sure this piir isnt a shia trying to spread corruption in the ranks of the sunnis? I once met a shia who never mentioned he was shia, but in a discussion over dinner he was saying to people that we shouldnt give dawah as only prophets give dawah and all sorts of other rubbish. Later on he met a barelwi privately and was showing him hadeeths about muawiyyah and fitnah between sahaba and things and I got into a huge debate and realised he's an absolute shaitaan.

May Allah make things easy for you bro and guide your parents and all the muslimeen

07-23-2012, 07:18 PM	#37
Bobdilan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 339 Senior Member	another thing i have noticed is when my dad needs his "namaz" (the one his pir told him to read) he is just saying alif-lam-meem and other letters with what surahs start with. He does that for an hour , what the hell is all that about ? I also think one time i heard my grandad(fathers pir) say that he knows what those words mean, and also there is x amount of secret meanings which Ali(ra) was told. In history has there ever been any other misguided "sufis" such as these ? sounds like some sort of taqiyyah. Are you sure this piir isnt a shia trying to spread corruption in the ranks of the sunnis? I once met a shia who never mentioned he was shia, but in a discussion over dinner he was saying to people that we shouldnt give dawah as only prophets give dawah and all sorts of other rubbish. Later on he met a barelwi privately and was showing him hadeeths about muawiyyah and fitnah between sahaba and things and I got into a huge debate and realised he's an absolute shaitaan. May Allah make things easy for you bro and guide your parents and all the muslimeen
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