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**interznakinfo** · 06-21-2012, 06:30 AM

Salaams

after the accusation that supposedly being salafi leads to kufr, I thought I woudl have a go at collecting together all of the off shoots of shia islam, to show where a lot of deviated groups sprang from. many of them are whole new religions. Have a read through their beliefs:

Which post is that, is it this one? http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post771383 Or a different one, because i would love to read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahl-i_Haqq
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismailis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahai

Why do so many new religions seem to off shoot from the shia? Is it a plot to corrupt the muslim lands? Can anyone name any other offshoots of the shia? The "Ismailis" are not an offshoot of Shia'ism. Rather, they are independant and separate strand of Shia'ism in its own right. Before the rise of the Safavid empire, the Ismailis were the dominant form of Shia. Egypt was the center of the Ismaili shia empire, they called themselves the "Fatimids". This came to an end when Shirkuh and Nur-ud-Deen (the uncle of Salahudeen) invaded Egypt, and killed off those heretics. After that, remnants of the Ismailis formed miltia groups called the Hashashin ("assassin"), who allied with the Crusaders, and continuously tried to assassinate Salahuddin. They too were unsuccessful.

The war between shia and sunni, isnt some "divide & conquer" conspired by the West. Rather, the shias have time and time again been allies of the West (during the Crusades, Afghan invasion, Iraq occupation). The struggle between Sunni and Shia has been waged since the death of the Prophet (sa) and assassinations of the Sahaba by the Shia and Kharijite. Imam Hussein and Zaid were both tricked and betrayed by them.

Yazidi is a separate religion in itself, no relation to Shia'ism. But, Bahai and his predecessor Bab were just run-off-the-mill nutjobs who turned dajjals, by falsely claiming to be Prophets. Its nothing to do with Rawafid in particular, this type of cultism happens in both the West and East, and especially in India. During the height of the Iraq war, there was a shia cult called "Jund as Sama" that formed with some fake messiah, who believed that causing destruction/bloodshed who hasten the arrival of the Mahdi. This was a really weird event in the war, but they quickly disntengrated and their leader apparently killed in 2007.

It is the duty of the Muslims to actively refute, fight, and pursue these false messenger and dajjals. And force them to confess and repent, or exterminate them. With regards to Bahai, Sikh, Druze, they formed claiming to be Prophets and successor to Islam, and should be fought against. But since then, these people have become a separate religion, and no longer claim to be representing Islam. Hence, there is no point in fighting them.

This is the divergence between them and the Shia, who still falsely CLAIM to be Muslims. They are thus spreading lies, and planting the seeds of fitnah and jahiliya among the true Muslims. These are the Munafiq, whom Muslims are supposed to fight against. They will pretend to be your brother, but when opportunity strikes (Iraq, Syria, Crusades, Lebanon, Pakistan), they will stab you in your back. Many Muslim countries (Iraq, Pakistan, Syria) are controlled by murtad Shia families/elite.

06-21-2012, 06:30 AM	#2
interznakinfo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	Salaams after the accusation that supposedly being salafi leads to kufr, I thought I woudl have a go at collecting together all of the off shoots of shia islam, to show where a lot of deviated groups sprang from. many of them are whole new religions. Have a read through their beliefs: Which post is that, is it this one? http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post771383 Or a different one, because i would love to read it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahl-i_Haqq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismailis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahai Why do so many new religions seem to off shoot from the shia? Is it a plot to corrupt the muslim lands? Can anyone name any other offshoots of the shia? The "Ismailis" are not an offshoot of Shia'ism. Rather, they are independant and separate strand of Shia'ism in its own right. Before the rise of the Safavid empire, the Ismailis were the dominant form of Shia. Egypt was the center of the Ismaili shia empire, they called themselves the "Fatimids". This came to an end when Shirkuh and Nur-ud-Deen (the uncle of Salahudeen) invaded Egypt, and killed off those heretics. After that, remnants of the Ismailis formed miltia groups called the Hashashin ("assassin"), who allied with the Crusaders, and continuously tried to assassinate Salahuddin. They too were unsuccessful. The war between shia and sunni, isnt some "divide & conquer" conspired by the West. Rather, the shias have time and time again been allies of the West (during the Crusades, Afghan invasion, Iraq occupation). The struggle between Sunni and Shia has been waged since the death of the Prophet (sa) and assassinations of the Sahaba by the Shia and Kharijite. Imam Hussein and Zaid were both tricked and betrayed by them. Yazidi is a separate religion in itself, no relation to Shia'ism. But, Bahai and his predecessor Bab were just run-off-the-mill nutjobs who turned dajjals, by falsely claiming to be Prophets. Its nothing to do with Rawafid in particular, this type of cultism happens in both the West and East, and especially in India. During the height of the Iraq war, there was a shia cult called "Jund as Sama" that formed with some fake messiah, who believed that causing destruction/bloodshed who hasten the arrival of the Mahdi. This was a really weird event in the war, but they quickly disntengrated and their leader apparently killed in 2007. It is the duty of the Muslims to actively refute, fight, and pursue these false messenger and dajjals. And force them to confess and repent, or exterminate them. With regards to Bahai, Sikh, Druze, they formed claiming to be Prophets and successor to Islam, and should be fought against. But since then, these people have become a separate religion, and no longer claim to be representing Islam. Hence, there is no point in fighting them. This is the divergence between them and the Shia, who still falsely CLAIM to be Muslims. They are thus spreading lies, and planting the seeds of fitnah and jahiliya among the true Muslims. These are the Munafiq, whom Muslims are supposed to fight against. They will pretend to be your brother, but when opportunity strikes (Iraq, Syria, Crusades, Lebanon, Pakistan), they will stab you in your back. Many Muslim countries (Iraq, Pakistan, Syria) are controlled by murtad Shia families/elite.
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