Care to elaborate brother, i think we are saying the same thing? Its a two part process, deconstruct and then offer the correct construct, two parts of the same coin Perchance i misunderstood. How would you broach the example of "infidel" in my last post, or any examples to clarify your approach? If the opponent is not willing to listen to the meanings of the terms he relays, then thats the kind of opponent you say "Peace" to, and leave alone?