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**domeffire** · 12-30-2011, 01:45 PM

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Imam Ghazalli has also stated about

Evils of modern debates

The following evils arise out of modern debates.

1. Envy .
The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: "Envy consumes good deeds as fire consumes fuels."A debator is never free from envy and hatred. Envy is a burning fire. One who falls in it gets punishment in the world. Hazrat Ibn Abbas (Radhi Allah Anhu) said: "Acquire 'Ilm wherever it is found and don't obey the shayateen who are prone to disputes."

2. Pride .
The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: A Mu'min cannot have kibr (pride) in him. There is a Hadith-e-Qudsi in which Allah Ta'ala said:
"Grandeur is My cloak and pride is My mantle. I destroy the one who snatches anything of these two from Me."

3. Rancor .
A debater is seldom free from the evil of rancour.

4. Back-biting .
Back-biting which is likened by Allahu Ta'ala to the eating of carrion (49:12).

5. Declaration of self-purity .
Allah says:

Don't attribute purity to yourself. He knows best who fears Him. (53:33).

6. Spying and prying into secrets of adversary .
Allah says Pry not. (49:12).

7. Nifaaq .

A debater expresses his friendship for his adversary outwardly but he cherishes hatred for him inwardly. The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi
wa Sallam) said: "When the learned men do not translate their learning into action, when they profess love for one another with their tongue and nurse hatred in their hearts, when they sever ties of relationship, Allah sends Curse upon them, makes their tongues mute and their eyes blind."

8. To turn away from Haqq.
The most hateful thing to a debater is to reject the truth revealed to his adversary and thus he takes to deception and deceit. The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) prohibited dispute about useless things. He (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said:

"If a man gives up disputation in matters of unlawful things, a garden will be built for him in Paradise. If a man gives up disputations in matters of Haqq, a house will be built up for him in the highest Paradise."

Allah Ta'ala says:He is more wrongful than one who devises a lie against Allah and calls the truth a lie when it comes to him. (29:68) Allah says: Who is more wrongful than he who lies against Allah and treats the truth when it comes to him as a lie (39:33).

9. Another fault.
Another fault of debate is show and flattering the people in an effort to win their favor and to mislead them. Nifaaq (hypocrisy) is the greatest disease with which a debator is attacked and it is a major sin.

10. Deception .
Debators are compelled to deception.

12-30-2011, 01:45 PM	#21
domeffire Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	http://www.muftisays.com/forums/peop...5/debates.html Imam Ghazalli has also stated about Evils of modern debates The following evils arise out of modern debates. 1. Envy . The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: "Envy consumes good deeds as fire consumes fuels."A debator is never free from envy and hatred. Envy is a burning fire. One who falls in it gets punishment in the world. Hazrat Ibn Abbas (Radhi Allah Anhu) said: "Acquire 'Ilm wherever it is found and don't obey the shayateen who are prone to disputes." 2. Pride . The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: A Mu'min cannot have kibr (pride) in him. There is a Hadith-e-Qudsi in which Allah Ta'ala said: "Grandeur is My cloak and pride is My mantle. I destroy the one who snatches anything of these two from Me." 3. Rancor . A debater is seldom free from the evil of rancour. 4. Back-biting . Back-biting which is likened by Allahu Ta'ala to the eating of carrion (49:12). 5. Declaration of self-purity . Allah says: Don't attribute purity to yourself. He knows best who fears Him. (53:33). 6. Spying and prying into secrets of adversary . Allah says Pry not. (49:12). 7. Nifaaq . A debater expresses his friendship for his adversary outwardly but he cherishes hatred for him inwardly. The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: "When the learned men do not translate their learning into action, when they profess love for one another with their tongue and nurse hatred in their hearts, when they sever ties of relationship, Allah sends Curse upon them, makes their tongues mute and their eyes blind." 8. To turn away from Haqq. The most hateful thing to a debater is to reject the truth revealed to his adversary and thus he takes to deception and deceit. The Holy Nabi (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) prohibited dispute about useless things. He (Sallallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: "If a man gives up disputation in matters of unlawful things, a garden will be built for him in Paradise. If a man gives up disputations in matters of Haqq, a house will be built up for him in the highest Paradise." Allah Ta'ala says:He is more wrongful than one who devises a lie against Allah and calls the truth a lie when it comes to him. (29:68) Allah says: Who is more wrongful than he who lies against Allah and treats the truth when it comes to him as a lie (39:33). 9. Another fault. Another fault of debate is show and flattering the people in an effort to win their favor and to mislead them. Nifaaq (hypocrisy) is the greatest disease with which a debator is attacked and it is a major sin. 10. Deception . Debators are compelled to deception.
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