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**bWxNFI3c** · 07-07-2012, 12:20 AM

Martin Luther King was considred a moderat Black Civil Rights activist, Malcolm X by contrast was considered an extremist. Malcolm X was reported to have said that if it was not for people like himself Martin Luther King would not have been able to get his message accepted as moderate. In other words Malcolm X acted as a foil for the presentation of the actual message. Hamza Yusuf if he adopted a 'extremist' position would become isolated and labeled an extremist, he needs to tailor his message to fit into his society without being isolated...I think he is doing a good job, May Allah Bless him and give his success in everything.

Had Hamza been doing so since the beginning then it would not have been much of an issue but his tone changed after 9/11 and we can safely assume that the post 9/11 environment effected all of his ideologies. We should also differentiate between softness and hypocrisy. It is also noteworthy that we Muslims are not the saviors of Islam. We are just practitioners of Islam and never has Allah put the burden of saving his religion on us. The savior is Allah himself.

Buddhism has become synonymous with religious moderation in the west and may be it is the only religion which is acceptable to the enlightened west these days. Mr Hamza's weird analogy of somehow making the maturidi creed look like having Buddhist roots is not only an expression of hypocrisy and a huge accusation against Imam Abul Mansoor maturidi but it also depicts the palpable insecurities running in the neurons of Hamza while addressing the western crowd.

Will any maturidi here agree with Hamza who has said that Imam Abul Mansoor was born in maturid where Buddhism was much common and the Buddhist influences made him soft so that he came with the soft toned Maturidi creed?

07-07-2012, 12:20 AM	#39
bWxNFI3c Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 539 Senior Member	Martin Luther King was considred a moderat Black Civil Rights activist, Malcolm X by contrast was considered an extremist. Malcolm X was reported to have said that if it was not for people like himself Martin Luther King would not have been able to get his message accepted as moderate. In other words Malcolm X acted as a foil for the presentation of the actual message. Hamza Yusuf if he adopted a 'extremist' position would become isolated and labeled an extremist, he needs to tailor his message to fit into his society without being isolated...I think he is doing a good job, May Allah Bless him and give his success in everything. Had Hamza been doing so since the beginning then it would not have been much of an issue but his tone changed after 9/11 and we can safely assume that the post 9/11 environment effected all of his ideologies. We should also differentiate between softness and hypocrisy. It is also noteworthy that we Muslims are not the saviors of Islam. We are just practitioners of Islam and never has Allah put the burden of saving his religion on us. The savior is Allah himself. Buddhism has become synonymous with religious moderation in the west and may be it is the only religion which is acceptable to the enlightened west these days. Mr Hamza's weird analogy of somehow making the maturidi creed look like having Buddhist roots is not only an expression of hypocrisy and a huge accusation against Imam Abul Mansoor maturidi but it also depicts the palpable insecurities running in the neurons of Hamza while addressing the western crowd. Will any maturidi here agree with Hamza who has said that Imam Abul Mansoor was born in maturid where Buddhism was much common and the Buddhist influences made him soft so that he came with the soft toned Maturidi creed?
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