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**LianneForbess** · 07-15-2012, 03:41 PM

I know where you are coming from. But to use the word "haram" for something which Allah himself has not declared 'haram' is not a wise act , I think. Music is not recommended , or music is 'discouraged' in hadiths etc is what should be a better way to put it.

If Music was 'haram' or 'unlawful' , Allah would have explicitly stated in the Qur'an ....

As I understand it , music is just like internet... It can be used in a very negative way BUT it can also be a very strong force in the positive way. So is every type of Music haram? What about national songs? Like that of Noor Jahan , in favor of Pakistani Army fighting enemies of nation etc? What about the music urging people to STAND UP against the tyrants and raise their voice against zulm , which also the command of Qur'an? So what are your views regarding this aspect?

Also , the psychology of Muslim youth are getting run over by Western/Bollywood music... the BEST way to counter this is to develop our OWN music industries..that is closer to our culture and religion....so that our youth are not psychology brainwashed by Kuffr...what about this situation? What is the best way to counter that? There is nothing! Be practical brother..I'm not supporting retarded music of Western rappers...but to condemn music as a whole field is also not solution. It actually does more harm than good! We are faced with difficult situations today..and we must devise a practical strategy to counter the cultural wars of 21st century...

Again, music has been specifically mentioned to be haraam.

There is a hadeeth where Rasoolullah

lists things that are haraam which will be made halaal by later generations - and

this prophecy is coming true, with many people throwing their backs behind the things listed in that hadeeth, from wearing silk to listening to music. Music was not part of Islamic culture and the most successful of Muslim generations, the salafus saleh, despised music and considered it haraam. One of the positions of the Hanafi school is as follows: if someone is walking by a house and they hear music coming from inside, they have the right to break into this person's house and break his musical instrument. This was actually the position of the tabi' tabi'een, the position of one of the greatest students of Imam Abu Hanifa

. So, to even permit a person from committing something that is otherwise haraam - i.e. breaking and entering - and then allowing that person to destroy the musical instrument, which otherwise would be haraam - i.e. destruction of property - shows how much music was seen as an evil in society and sadly, many Muslims cannot see it for what it is. So we can tell how stern the positions of Muslims have been with regards to music.

You are welcome to hold on to your opinion, but know that the majority opinion of the ulama of the past and the opinion that we see directly from the salafus saleh is that of it being haraam.

07-15-2012, 03:41 PM	#9
LianneForbess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	I know where you are coming from. But to use the word "haram" for something which Allah himself has not declared 'haram' is not a wise act , I think. Music is not recommended , or music is 'discouraged' in hadiths etc is what should be a better way to put it. If Music was 'haram' or 'unlawful' , Allah would have explicitly stated in the Qur'an .... As I understand it , music is just like internet... It can be used in a very negative way BUT it can also be a very strong force in the positive way. So is every type of Music haram? What about national songs? Like that of Noor Jahan , in favor of Pakistani Army fighting enemies of nation etc? What about the music urging people to STAND UP against the tyrants and raise their voice against zulm , which also the command of Qur'an? So what are your views regarding this aspect? Also , the psychology of Muslim youth are getting run over by Western/Bollywood music... the BEST way to counter this is to develop our OWN music industries..that is closer to our culture and religion....so that our youth are not psychology brainwashed by Kuffr...what about this situation? What is the best way to counter that? There is nothing! Be practical brother..I'm not supporting retarded music of Western rappers...but to condemn music as a whole field is also not solution. It actually does more harm than good! We are faced with difficult situations today..and we must devise a practical strategy to counter the cultural wars of 21st century... Again, music has been specifically mentioned to be haraam. There is a hadeeth where Rasoolullah lists things that are haraam which will be made halaal by later generations - and this prophecy is coming true, with many people throwing their backs behind the things listed in that hadeeth, from wearing silk to listening to music. Music was not part of Islamic culture and the most successful of Muslim generations, the salafus saleh, despised music and considered it haraam. One of the positions of the Hanafi school is as follows: if someone is walking by a house and they hear music coming from inside, they have the right to break into this person's house and break his musical instrument. This was actually the position of the tabi' tabi'een, the position of one of the greatest students of Imam Abu Hanifa . So, to even permit a person from committing something that is otherwise haraam - i.e. breaking and entering - and then allowing that person to destroy the musical instrument, which otherwise would be haraam - i.e. destruction of property - shows how much music was seen as an evil in society and sadly, many Muslims cannot see it for what it is. So we can tell how stern the positions of Muslims have been with regards to music. You are welcome to hold on to your opinion, but know that the majority opinion of the ulama of the past and the opinion that we see directly from the salafus saleh is that of it being haraam.
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