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**Carfanate** · 06-17-2012, 01:04 PM

I wonder why Muslims believe in the interpretations of this man when such interpretations have never been found in the early books of this Ummah? He also believes the sun has already risen from the West apparently

'But this sign has provoked numerous other non-literal interpretations, all of which agree that it has already occurred. Our view is that the rising of the sun from the West symbolizes an upside– down world in which mankind is led by their noses to a way of life which would be the very opposite of that natural way ordained by Allah. Natural money, for example, so identified in the Qur’an, is derived from precious metals. When such money is in short supply in a market such as Madina’s, then a substitute in the form of commodities such as wheat, barley, dates, salt, etc., can temporarily take its place. Around the world today that natural money with intrinsic value has been displaced by artificial money with no intrinsic value and it is used as an instrument of oppression. That upside-down unnatural way of life has already been accepted by most of mankind. In this sense, therefore, the sun is already rising from the West. And Allah Knows best!'

http://www.imranhosein.org/articles/...-occurred.html

There are Sahih Hadith which tell us that repentance is not accepted after this sign manifests itself. Maybe he'll interpret that 'metaphorically' too though, depending on whether he likes the idea of no more repentance or not, just as he interprets many hadith metaphorically because they fit into his warped conspiracy fed world view.

This reminded me of something .... following is from wiki answers about Venus .

All planets revolve around the sun in the same direction. This direction is counterclockwise, if viewed from above. However, Venus rotates around its own axis (spins) very slowly in a clockwise direction, which is the opposite direction of the other planets.

The competing theories for the cause of this reverse rotation are 1) tidal effects of the Sun and 2) an impact with a large asteroid in the distant past. While the thick atmosphere of Venus could indeed create tidal effects, these are not seen in the gas giants. A collision in the past, similar to an impact that is thought to have formed Earth's Moon, is the more likely current theory.
In any event, the rotation is so slow that Venus can be said to be barely rotating at all. So, in that respect, Venus is only barely rotating clockwise. It takes 243 days to make one turn, which is longer than its year of about 225 Earth days. (The combination creates an effective solar day of about 117 Earth days in length.)
Well time and again people mention the sun rising from the west and about days like weeks a week like a year and so forth . It reminded me of this fact .

06-17-2012, 01:04 PM	#24
Carfanate Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	I wonder why Muslims believe in the interpretations of this man when such interpretations have never been found in the early books of this Ummah? He also believes the sun has already risen from the West apparently 'But this sign has provoked numerous other non-literal interpretations, all of which agree that it has already occurred. Our view is that the rising of the sun from the West symbolizes an upside– down world in which mankind is led by their noses to a way of life which would be the very opposite of that natural way ordained by Allah. Natural money, for example, so identified in the Qur’an, is derived from precious metals. When such money is in short supply in a market such as Madina’s, then a substitute in the form of commodities such as wheat, barley, dates, salt, etc., can temporarily take its place. Around the world today that natural money with intrinsic value has been displaced by artificial money with no intrinsic value and it is used as an instrument of oppression. That upside-down unnatural way of life has already been accepted by most of mankind. In this sense, therefore, the sun is already rising from the West. And Allah Knows best!' http://www.imranhosein.org/articles/...-occurred.html There are Sahih Hadith which tell us that repentance is not accepted after this sign manifests itself. Maybe he'll interpret that 'metaphorically' too though, depending on whether he likes the idea of no more repentance or not, just as he interprets many hadith metaphorically because they fit into his warped conspiracy fed world view. This reminded me of something .... following is from wiki answers about Venus . All planets revolve around the sun in the same direction. This direction is counterclockwise, if viewed from above. However, Venus rotates around its own axis (spins) very slowly in a clockwise direction, which is the opposite direction of the other planets. The competing theories for the cause of this reverse rotation are 1) tidal effects of the Sun and 2) an impact with a large asteroid in the distant past. While the thick atmosphere of Venus could indeed create tidal effects, these are not seen in the gas giants. A collision in the past, similar to an impact that is thought to have formed Earth's Moon, is the more likely current theory. In any event, the rotation is so slow that Venus can be said to be barely rotating at all. So, in that respect, Venus is only barely rotating clockwise. It takes 243 days to make one turn, which is longer than its year of about 225 Earth days. (The combination creates an effective solar day of about 117 Earth days in length.) Well time and again people mention the sun rising from the west and about days like weeks a week like a year and so forth . It reminded me of this fact .
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