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**DoctorTOneery** · 07-08-2012, 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Abu Zakir;789832]

here is a link: http://engagersindawah.blogspot.co.u...ali-nadwi.html

However making ourselves useful to Britain, does not mean that we completely ignore the laws of Islam, working in bars and serving haram food and drink is not acceptable.

As Muslims in Britain we have built masjids, businesses and homes...but we have not progressed further we are not attracting others to Islam we need to do more, we need to improve ourselves and make ourselves into amazing people. Just smiling, asking people how they are doing, and being someone who wants good for them, improving the look of our cities...will win hearts.

I really agree with this point. Its the most important point on the thread.
There will be no more important point than this in this thread.

Lets be honest about this 99% of people came for money.
If you emigrate for the intention of money, then that is what you are going to get.
Its not useful to pretend muslims came here for dawah, hence there is 1% dawah going on in Europe.

Thats the brutal reality that everyone will ignore in this debate.
If the children of the 99% change then things will change.

I think the bloc need to marginalise the extreme elements, like those who living in a foregin country try to enforce shariah.
Forcing shariah in a foreign country is not the correct way to bring about shariah

Going to a foreign country and criticisig the host to the extent they find you rude and insulting is hypocricy.
In actuality, those who do this, should leave, and if they dont, should be thrown out.

They cause the most divisions. And create the most problems for muslims in Europe.

There would be no issue of integration if people listened to the prophet
and dealt with their neighbours nicely and not peed them off.

The reverse would happen, and people would appreciate them here.

07-08-2012, 09:12 PM	#19
DoctorTOneery Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	[QUOTE=Abu Zakir;789832] here is a link: http://engagersindawah.blogspot.co.u...ali-nadwi.html However making ourselves useful to Britain, does not mean that we completely ignore the laws of Islam, working in bars and serving haram food and drink is not acceptable. As Muslims in Britain we have built masjids, businesses and homes...but we have not progressed further we are not attracting others to Islam we need to do more, we need to improve ourselves and make ourselves into amazing people. Just smiling, asking people how they are doing, and being someone who wants good for them, improving the look of our cities...will win hearts. I really agree with this point. Its the most important point on the thread. There will be no more important point than this in this thread. Lets be honest about this 99% of people came for money. If you emigrate for the intention of money, then that is what you are going to get. Its not useful to pretend muslims came here for dawah, hence there is 1% dawah going on in Europe. Thats the brutal reality that everyone will ignore in this debate. If the children of the 99% change then things will change. I think the bloc need to marginalise the extreme elements, like those who living in a foregin country try to enforce shariah. Forcing shariah in a foreign country is not the correct way to bring about shariah Going to a foreign country and criticisig the host to the extent they find you rude and insulting is hypocricy. In actuality, those who do this, should leave, and if they dont, should be thrown out. They cause the most divisions. And create the most problems for muslims in Europe. There would be no issue of integration if people listened to the prophet and dealt with their neighbours nicely and not peed them off. The reverse would happen, and people would appreciate them here.
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