....It news to you because most of the time our barelvi friends dont even have patience to discuss the issue properly to understand the terminology. This stance is mentioned by Maulana Khaleel Ahmed Saharanpuri in Al Muhannad Alal Mufannad as well. See Question #18 which states that Rasulullah is A'lam in whole makhlooq. Then #19 mentions that anyone who says that any makhlooq is more a'lam than Rasulullah has commited kufr.. This is same Muhannad which was written in clarification / radd of Ml. Ahmad Raza Khan Saheb's Hussam al Haramain (which you boasted as a fatwa of kufr initiated from Arab - too bad most the the mufties who attested hussam later on made ruju' from their fatwas after they learnt about the truth of the matter) Moreover, remember Hifz ul Imaan ibarat by Maulana Ashraf Ali THanvi r.a which was also brought up in hussam al haramain. That whole ibarah was actually explaining this very issue. of ba'dh ilm and kull ilm e ghaib**. but for that you will have to read the actual ibarah with full understanding. Even Ml Ahmed Raza Saheb mentioned in is dawla tul makiya that anyone (from makhlooq) to have kull uloom ghaib is mahaal (impossible). This was exactly what hifz ul imaan talked about and what the jamhur aqida is. And this is exactly what you are denying by sanctioning Sh. Ghumari's views.. anyhow can you post the refernce and the urdu from fatawa rasheediya which says that any knowledge of the unseen. If the its "the knowledge" then that is jinsi i.e kulli.. but lets wait for the reference and the urdu.. ** Note of clarification. After re-reading my own post, I could assess that my statement can (and most probably will) be misunderstood. Hence I post a clarification. When I say that Rasulullah had ba'dh ilm, a more appropriate trm for this would be akhbar ul ghaib. Since a Nabi by definition provides khabr of the ghaib, not that he knows of the ghaib. Whatever information is given to the Nabi from ghaib, he transfers it. Or from nasus we see that it could be itlaa' ul ghaib as well. This was also the reason why such ibarat have been misunderstood from our akabir as well.