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**fenter1** · 07-05-2012, 11:30 AM

Brother, if you want to celebrate this night then fine. But there's a strong view that this night is bid'ah. Why would you celebrate a night which has so much doubts surrounding it? Its safer to leave matter of doubt. I personally believe its a bid'ah because there's a lot of evidence that support this view.

If i want to celebrate?

[1] You made an unsubstantiated claim that doing Ibadah on this night was exclusive to South Asians

[2] You said all the ahadith are weak, but i have said even "Salafi" Scholars have authenticated them, no response!

[3] Now you say there are doubts surrounding these narrations, when it is al-Albani himself who said there was no doubt that the narrations are authentic on the various routes.

[4] You also state the "stronger view", what substance have you got for this? i can tell you that the majority view is that is allowed to worship on this night (the four Schools and even some from the "fifth" Salafi School)! So who's view is stronger?

[5] This is not a matter of doubt i.e. to make haram and halal, rather this is a matter of Fadha'il, and majority of the 'Ulama encourage acting on weak ahadith for virtuous deeds generally, so which Usool have you invented?

[6] Lots of evidence to support it's bid'ah? oh you going to quote the Salafi Scholars and those Radd on the hundred rak'ats with Surah al-Ikhlas? talk about deja vu.

07-05-2012, 11:30 AM	#29
fenter1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 360 Senior Member	Brother, if you want to celebrate this night then fine. But there's a strong view that this night is bid'ah. Why would you celebrate a night which has so much doubts surrounding it? Its safer to leave matter of doubt. I personally believe its a bid'ah because there's a lot of evidence that support this view. If i want to celebrate? [1] You made an unsubstantiated claim that doing Ibadah on this night was exclusive to South Asians [2] You said all the ahadith are weak, but i have said even "Salafi" Scholars have authenticated them, no response! [3] Now you say there are doubts surrounding these narrations, when it is al-Albani himself who said there was no doubt that the narrations are authentic on the various routes. [4] You also state the "stronger view", what substance have you got for this? i can tell you that the majority view is that is allowed to worship on this night (the four Schools and even some from the "fifth" Salafi School)! So who's view is stronger? [5] This is not a matter of doubt i.e. to make haram and halal, rather this is a matter of Fadha'il, and majority of the 'Ulama encourage acting on weak ahadith for virtuous deeds generally, so which Usool have you invented? [6] Lots of evidence to support it's bid'ah? oh you going to quote the Salafi Scholars and those Radd on the hundred rak'ats with Surah al-Ikhlas? talk about deja vu.
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