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Old 07-08-2012, 06:29 AM   #18
yK2VgoEI

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How does it not make sense? The heavens are layered, atop each other - that is what is probably what the brother meant by saying "inside" each other. If you look at the layers of the earth, for example, the crust encircles the mantle layer completely so it would not be wrong to say that the mantle layer is underneath the crust. Even the layers of the atmosphere are of varying distance between each other.

Where are you quoting that from? It seems like some non-Muslim's claim and a Muslim's response. The non-Muslim appears to be an outright liar. For example, he claims that "Muslim compliers try to cover up this serious flaw in the Koran by saying that the ex-pression should be considered poetic rather than scientific" when this is never the case. Muslims believe in the literal levels of heaven. Even the claim that the moon is in the middle of the all the heavens is an idiotic lie. The word used in the Qur'an is فيهن which means "in them". The moon is a light in the heavens, not in the middle of the seven heavens.





Start a different thread about this issue. The problem with using an English translation of a hadeeth, especially one that is provided by Salafis, is that it will leave you confused. The same word that the Salafis translate in the Qur'an as being above (استوى) was most likely the one used in the Arabic of the hadeeth. It does not mean "up" as the Salafis keep on claiming it does.
If the heavens are layered, there is no distance between them, they are one on another, but the hadith says that there is a distance of ''500 years'' between the each of the heavens, something is wrong...and how do we know that heavens are inside eachothers.
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