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**yovbQVpD** · 06-15-2012, 11:06 PM

akhi you dont get it do you. There are thousands of examples of people from salafis, deobandis, barelwis, shia, even people who were present in the time of the prophet SAW who apostated, like on the night journey, people shouldnt be using this as an evidence, it doenst prove anything. I can pull out countless examples of things ebing done by deobandis but what does this prove and what benefit does it bring when I should be seeking to unite with my deobandi brothers as one body to repel the assault on islam and further our ummah in the current geopolitical situations. I should be seeking to create unity and understanding between both salafis and deobandis, wallahi last night i correct 3 salafi brothers that deobandis dont believe in wahdatul wujood and that they hold a position on aqeedah that is the same as ibn hajr and imam nawawi, why? because i want to see MORE cooperation, MORE goodwill, when i see brothers rejoicing at the site of brothers who are striviing in dawah, because the kuffar decided to end the efforts of dawah, and supposedly this proves that the salafis are in chaos, there is something serioulsy wrong and people cant see past the bias in their hearts, talk about tazkiyatun nafs, there are definitely somethings brothers need to remove from their hearts from this forum, and it is bringing death and destruction to the ummmah. I cant believe that some brothers feel taht salafis are the biggets threat to islam right now, that absolutely astounds me. I accept that some salafis are in need of correction, but how can I invite them to a united salafi deobandi front when all i can show them is a forum where salafis are regularly blasted, linked with riddaa, and labelled as worser enemies than barelwis, qadiyanis, shia and kuffar?

I ask Allah to show us all the right approach in dealing with our brothers and sisters in islam

I get it very well, my Brother.

The point that you are forgetting that if this “Salafi Dawah” towards Tawheed was the be all and end all then in the heartland where this Dawah originated from i.e. Saudia, the situation would have vastly improved. The socio/political problems within Saudia clearly indicate that this pumping billions of Petro-Dollars into Dawah towards a cult (i.e. Salafiyya) hasn't worked, instead this money should have been better spent in Dawah towards "Islam".

Billions spent and it has created a lot of strife, agitation, backlash (some may even say blowback) amongst Muslims.

I will give you some personal examples (I have lived, worked and studied in Saudia). I went to Umrah and people feed seeds to the birds in Jannatul-Baqi and consider the issue as meritorious

As I was walking out there was a bag full of seeds and I picked it up (as it was in the way) to put it in the bin. A Saudi-Government appointed Mutawwa came to me and said, “Masha’Allah you are in the Sunnah, you have a Beard you should NOT involve in Bid’ah” and kept speaking to me for a while on the merits of Tawheed and adopting the Sunnah.

I asked him, “Are you done?”

He looked surprised and said, “Yes”

I said, “I picked it up because it in the path and I am going to put it in the bin so nobody trips over it. Your overzealous Dawah assumed the WORST in me and NEVER gave me a chance to even say anything”.

While in Saudia we would be out and about with work colleagues eating and the religious authorities would come (barge in) and INSIST ON GIVING Dawah booklets to these “mostly uninterested Non-Muslims” in the middle of their meal who witness the worst of Saudi society on a daily basis.

I don't have a problem with my Salafi Brothers & Sisters but I don't think they realise the impact (and hostility generated) by their "Salafi Dawah" towards other Muslims and their condescending attitude going from Masjid to Masjid and assuming that everyone is:

a) Deviant
b) Idiot
c) Ignoramus
d) lax towards their religion and faulty in their understanding of religion (including Scholars)

Salafi Dawah is towards existing Muslims!

06-15-2012, 11:06 PM	#19
yovbQVpD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 401 Senior Member	akhi you dont get it do you. There are thousands of examples of people from salafis, deobandis, barelwis, shia, even people who were present in the time of the prophet SAW who apostated, like on the night journey, people shouldnt be using this as an evidence, it doenst prove anything. I can pull out countless examples of things ebing done by deobandis but what does this prove and what benefit does it bring when I should be seeking to unite with my deobandi brothers as one body to repel the assault on islam and further our ummah in the current geopolitical situations. I should be seeking to create unity and understanding between both salafis and deobandis, wallahi last night i correct 3 salafi brothers that deobandis dont believe in wahdatul wujood and that they hold a position on aqeedah that is the same as ibn hajr and imam nawawi, why? because i want to see MORE cooperation, MORE goodwill, when i see brothers rejoicing at the site of brothers who are striviing in dawah, because the kuffar decided to end the efforts of dawah, and supposedly this proves that the salafis are in chaos, there is something serioulsy wrong and people cant see past the bias in their hearts, talk about tazkiyatun nafs, there are definitely somethings brothers need to remove from their hearts from this forum, and it is bringing death and destruction to the ummmah. I cant believe that some brothers feel taht salafis are the biggets threat to islam right now, that absolutely astounds me. I accept that some salafis are in need of correction, but how can I invite them to a united salafi deobandi front when all i can show them is a forum where salafis are regularly blasted, linked with riddaa, and labelled as worser enemies than barelwis, qadiyanis, shia and kuffar? I ask Allah to show us all the right approach in dealing with our brothers and sisters in islam I get it very well, my Brother. The point that you are forgetting that if this “Salafi Dawah” towards Tawheed was the be all and end all then in the heartland where this Dawah originated from i.e. Saudia, the situation would have vastly improved. The socio/political problems within Saudia clearly indicate that this pumping billions of Petro-Dollars into Dawah towards a cult (i.e. Salafiyya) hasn't worked, instead this money should have been better spent in Dawah towards "Islam". Billions spent and it has created a lot of strife, agitation, backlash (some may even say blowback) amongst Muslims. I will give you some personal examples (I have lived, worked and studied in Saudia). I went to Umrah and people feed seeds to the birds in Jannatul-Baqi and consider the issue as meritorious As I was walking out there was a bag full of seeds and I picked it up (as it was in the way) to put it in the bin. A Saudi-Government appointed Mutawwa came to me and said, “Masha’Allah you are in the Sunnah, you have a Beard you should NOT involve in Bid’ah” and kept speaking to me for a while on the merits of Tawheed and adopting the Sunnah. I asked him, “Are you done?” He looked surprised and said, “Yes” I said, “I picked it up because it in the path and I am going to put it in the bin so nobody trips over it. Your overzealous Dawah assumed the WORST in me and NEVER gave me a chance to even say anything”. While in Saudia we would be out and about with work colleagues eating and the religious authorities would come (barge in) and INSIST ON GIVING Dawah booklets to these “mostly uninterested Non-Muslims” in the middle of their meal who witness the worst of Saudi society on a daily basis. I don't have a problem with my Salafi Brothers & Sisters but I don't think they realise the impact (and hostility generated) by their "Salafi Dawah" towards other Muslims and their condescending attitude going from Masjid to Masjid and assuming that everyone is: a) Deviant b) Idiot c) Ignoramus d) lax towards their religion and faulty in their understanding of religion (including Scholars) Salafi Dawah is towards existing Muslims!
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