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Old 06-16-2012, 06:45 AM   #37
Grzqbmhy

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Subhanallah, some brothers are so easily tricked by labels!

Do you even realize that they even call people as as "Salafists", who do not even regard themselves as "Salafi"??
If some deobandi brothers here would live in Germany they would be regarded as "Salafists"!!

What is more important than labels, are the actual positions of a group/person:

Take for example two people, who say that they're Hanafi. One of them simply asks Hanafi 'Ulama` if he has any Fiqh questions and is a good muslim, while the other is a grave worshipping Barelwi who is on another Din than Islam! So here you have the same label, but two completely different persons.

Or take for example two person, who are regarded as Sufis. One of them makes much Dhikr, reads a lot of Qur`an and stays away from sins, while the other dances around saying "Hu hu hu" and claiming that this is Dhikr.

Or take for example two persons, who regard themselves as Salafis. One of them follows the Sunnah as much possible and loves those who fight for the sake of Allah ta'ala, while the other is Murji` and a someone who loves the apostate rulers of today.

So don't be fooled by labels!

And please read the following post to understand the situation of the muslims in Germany:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post768668

The brothers from "DieWahreReligion", who distributed the free Qur`an translations, already warned all muslims that they should not be fooled by the media propaganda! The media is using the word "Salafists" and mentions things that all muslims believe and says then "this is what Salafists believe"!

While in Saudia we would be out and about with work colleagues eating and the religious authorities would come (barge in) and INSIST ON GIVING Dawah booklets to these “mostly uninterested Non-Muslims” in the middle of their meal who witness the worst of Saudi society on a daily basis.
Are we speaking about Germany or about Su'uidyyah?

In the history of Islam there have been numerous calls for reform and Dawah BUT NONE to actually dictate and control the lives of millions of Muslims to the ultimate degree, thats what its about i.e. control because the Saudi regime needs SALAFIYYAH to control lives so there is no revolt against them.
Dear brother, again: Germany or Su'udiyyah? I hope you know that those brother who were distributing the Qur`an translations, regard the Saudi regime as traitors!

however i dont see any sense in living in germany and asking muslims to reject german law. and telling people the non-muslims are the enemy while one is in germany.
Yeah, let's believe everything the disbelievers tell us.

Just to tell you what really happened: Some muslims started distributing free Qur`an translations and the next day the media said "Salafists want to build a Shar'iah state in Germany" even tough no one has mentioned that. So do you believe the media?

And please read this to understand what is really going:

Maybe you dishonest person could tell us where the Salafis in Germany (for your info: Most people whom the media calls "Salafist" either only call themselves muslims or they also call themselves Salafi, but no one calls himself Salafist!) said that they want their host country to change their legal system and to implement Shari'ah instead?!?

What can a host country expect from its guest: It can expect that they don't go against the law, right? And the brothers, whom they accuse all sorts of things did not say that one should go against the law!
But can the host country expect from us muslims that we change our values? This is a matter of belief and conviction, so how can they demand such a thing?! Can they tell us what we should view as correct and what as wrong??
If anyone says that they can, then this means that he says that they can tell us that we should change our religion!

We as muslims believe that the Qur`an is the speech of the lord of the worlds and that it's better than any other speech! And the laws, which the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) implemented in Madinah, is in our conviction the best law and it's better than any man-made laws!
This is our belief. Has our host country the right to tell us that we should change this conviction and believe in their laws and values instead?? No!

The media started a big propaganda campaign against the brothers, who were distributing these free Qur`an translations.
What they also did all the time is that they mentioned things that the "evil Salafists" believe, but these things that they mentioned were things that all muslims believe!

For example they mentioned that "Salafists" believe that the Shari'ah law is better than any other law and this is something that all muslims believe! But the media also acts as if the brothers are trying to implement the Shari'ah here in the west, which of course is a lie! And the brothers whom they accuse, did not say that one should go against the law!
And they also mentioned that the "Salafists" believe that jews and christians, whom the message of Islam arrives and who do not accept it, will be in the hellfire. Again this is something that all muslims believe!
And they also mentioned that "Salafists" say that Islam is the only true religion and that all other religions are wrong. And again this is something that all muslims believe!

And they mentioned many many things, which all muslims believe.

If the media wants to tell us what we're allowed to believe and what not, then may I ask where their "freedom of opinion" and "freedom of religion" has gone??
Here in Germany they're putting more and more pressure on any organization or masjid that is independent. And they're demanding all muslims to believe that the western "values" are better than the values that are teached in the Qur`an al-karim, but unfortunalely some people here on this forum having nothing better to do than to attack muslims and getting fooled by labels.
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