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**chuecaloversvv** · 07-06-2012, 08:30 AM

So there is no difference between a muslim and believer ? So does muslim mean a believer ? My friends said there was a difference ??

There could be a difference, but not necessarily, it depends. Just because someone is a Muslim, doesn't mean he's pious. On the other hand, some Muslims are pious so they are Mu'minoon (true believers).

And a muslim is one who doesnt pray except in Ramadan , doesnt give zakah (charity right) does a lot of sins and doesnt read Quran regularly?

Again not necessarily. That is just an example of someone who is a Muslim (says the kalimah) but not a Mu'min (a true believer). A sinful Muslim (like the one I gave you the example of) cannot be a Mu'min.

Im confused ? Does that mean if you pray all the time and give charity all the time and only a few sins and read Quran you are definitely a mu'mim ?

Its not all about worship, you have to be kind also, and have good character. But essentially, your are correct. If someone does many good deeds, and has very few sins, then I would think of him is a mu'min (a True Believer)

How long does it take to be better rank, what steps do you need to do to jump from muslim to mumim to the next level ?

You just have to increase your taqwa, and be as pious as you can in your day to day life. You can never claim yourself to be of high caliber, because that would be arrogance. No one can say "I am completely Pure" because Allah forbids us to do that. Only Allah knows whats in the heart. However, you can claim someone else to be a Mu'min or Muhsin.

Sorry if I confused you, just watch this video, it'll clear things up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8J0OE1IzRI

07-06-2012, 08:30 AM	#7
chuecaloversvv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	So there is no difference between a muslim and believer ? So does muslim mean a believer ? My friends said there was a difference ?? There could be a difference, but not necessarily, it depends. Just because someone is a Muslim, doesn't mean he's pious. On the other hand, some Muslims are pious so they are Mu'minoon (true believers). And a muslim is one who doesnt pray except in Ramadan , doesnt give zakah (charity right) does a lot of sins and doesnt read Quran regularly? Again not necessarily. That is just an example of someone who is a Muslim (says the kalimah) but not a Mu'min (a true believer). A sinful Muslim (like the one I gave you the example of) cannot be a Mu'min. Im confused ? Does that mean if you pray all the time and give charity all the time and only a few sins and read Quran you are definitely a mu'mim ? Its not all about worship, you have to be kind also, and have good character. But essentially, your are correct. If someone does many good deeds, and has very few sins, then I would think of him is a mu'min (a True Believer) How long does it take to be better rank, what steps do you need to do to jump from muslim to mumim to the next level ? You just have to increase your taqwa, and be as pious as you can in your day to day life. You can never claim yourself to be of high caliber, because that would be arrogance. No one can say "I am completely Pure" because Allah forbids us to do that. Only Allah knows whats in the heart. However, you can claim someone else to be a Mu'min or Muhsin. Sorry if I confused you, just watch this video, it'll clear things up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8J0OE1IzRI
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