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**gactanync** · 08-16-2011, 07:28 AM

MUAWIYAH EVIL MAN

HIS FAMILY (YAZID) KILLED THE GRANDCHILDREN OF THE PROPHET(SAW) AND KILLED HIS GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WHO WERE ONLY CHILDREN LIKE ALI ASGHAR WHO WAS ONLY 6 MONTHS OLD!!!

THEN WHY WOULD THE PROPHET PRAISE HIM?????

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As individuals, it is Shamr Bin Thee Al Jawshan and Sinan Bin Anas that killed al Hussain. Collectively also, it is Shias who killed al Hussain. Ali raa would complain about people of Kufah. When Hussain wanted to go to Al Kufah Abu Saeed Al Khudree warned him and dont go I heard your father complain about the people of Kufah. And Ali said about them I "straighten" you in the day and by night you return like a snake. He also said I wish Muawiyah would exchange you (with one of his men), as the exchange of a Dinar in return for a Dirham.

Al Hasan complained about them as well mentioning that they killed his father.

Al Hussain when leaving from Makkah to Kufah, the people who sent letters to him asking him to come, were in the army of kufah fighting him! Those who gave him Bay'ah and asked him to come killed him. Shia scholar Muhsin Al Amin confirms this in "A'yaan al Shia"

Murtada al Mutahiri in his book "Al Malhamah Al Hussainiyyah" : "Surprisingly, Al Hussain was killed by Muslims, and specifically, by the Shias!" He also said "The killers of Hussain are his shias".

So they basically kill someone then attend his funeral!

This is why they made "Tawabeen army" later, making tawbah!

The main three figures responsible for killing al Hussain are :

1- Shamr Bin Thee Al Jawshan (Was in Alis army in Siffeen battle)

2- Sinan Bin Anas (his father Anas was in Alis army in Siffeen!)

3- Ubaidulah Bin Ziyad. (He was in Alis army in Siffeen battle! and his father ruled Basrah under Ali raa!)

In the book "Rijaal al Shia" shias admit this about 1 and 3.

So as you see all of them are shias, whether as groups or individuals. So crying and lying and copying and pasting doesnt mean theres an arguement. Shias have nothing but emotions to offer and have zero knowledge of Hadeeth. In televised debates they proved to be jokes. This is why they rely on emotions only in their propaganda in their Husainniyaat and Ashura and other occasions.

Who benefits? The ones who claim to be from Ahl Al Bait wearing those black hats so that they can collect $$$$ from Shias willing to pay them "Al Khums".

Its nothing more than a business my friend and a culture based on the remains of the Persian empire that was conquered by Umar Radhee Allahu Anhu. A Shia "sheikh" here admits this and adds that "breaking the arm of Fatima is a lie", saying that its to give their position a religious look on the outside, since being conquered by "Barberic Arab bedwins" as he put it, was too much for them to stomach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vElr1mUYHn8

Crying and raising ones voice and repeating lies doesnt make them truth.

08-16-2011, 07:28 AM	#14
gactanync Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	MUAWIYAH EVIL MAN HIS FAMILY (YAZID) KILLED THE GRANDCHILDREN OF THE PROPHET(SAW) AND KILLED HIS GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WHO WERE ONLY CHILDREN LIKE ALI ASGHAR WHO WAS ONLY 6 MONTHS OLD!!! THEN WHY WOULD THE PROPHET PRAISE HIM????? . As individuals, it is Shamr Bin Thee Al Jawshan and Sinan Bin Anas that killed al Hussain. Collectively also, it is Shias who killed al Hussain. Ali raa would complain about people of Kufah. When Hussain wanted to go to Al Kufah Abu Saeed Al Khudree warned him and dont go I heard your father complain about the people of Kufah. And Ali said about them I "straighten" you in the day and by night you return like a snake. He also said I wish Muawiyah would exchange you (with one of his men), as the exchange of a Dinar in return for a Dirham. Al Hasan complained about them as well mentioning that they killed his father. Al Hussain when leaving from Makkah to Kufah, the people who sent letters to him asking him to come, were in the army of kufah fighting him! Those who gave him Bay'ah and asked him to come killed him. Shia scholar Muhsin Al Amin confirms this in "A'yaan al Shia" Murtada al Mutahiri in his book "Al Malhamah Al Hussainiyyah" : "Surprisingly, Al Hussain was killed by Muslims, and specifically, by the Shias!" He also said "The killers of Hussain are his shias". So they basically kill someone then attend his funeral! This is why they made "Tawabeen army" later, making tawbah! The main three figures responsible for killing al Hussain are : 1- Shamr Bin Thee Al Jawshan (Was in Alis army in Siffeen battle) 2- Sinan Bin Anas (his father Anas was in Alis army in Siffeen!) 3- Ubaidulah Bin Ziyad. (He was in Alis army in Siffeen battle! and his father ruled Basrah under Ali raa!) In the book "Rijaal al Shia" shias admit this about 1 and 3. So as you see all of them are shias, whether as groups or individuals. So crying and lying and copying and pasting doesnt mean theres an arguement. Shias have nothing but emotions to offer and have zero knowledge of Hadeeth. In televised debates they proved to be jokes. This is why they rely on emotions only in their propaganda in their Husainniyaat and Ashura and other occasions. Who benefits? The ones who claim to be from Ahl Al Bait wearing those black hats so that they can collect $$$$ from Shias willing to pay them "Al Khums". Its nothing more than a business my friend and a culture based on the remains of the Persian empire that was conquered by Umar Radhee Allahu Anhu. A Shia "sheikh" here admits this and adds that "breaking the arm of Fatima is a lie", saying that its to give their position a religious look on the outside, since being conquered by "Barberic Arab bedwins" as he put it, was too much for them to stomach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vElr1mUYHn8 Crying and raising ones voice and repeating lies doesnt make them truth.
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