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**Gastonleruanich** · 05-27-2012, 08:36 AM

Salaamu alaiykum
I think the OP could have been worded much better. Less of the emotion and tangential bad words and more intellectual criticism. There are ettiquetes for warning against other people if I'm not mistaken, even if that person may be doing a lot of harm. In fact, tending to emotions will make the very people you aim to convince tend to their emotion and actually become more motivated to go against what you say. We have to be rationalists. This is a reminder to everyone including myself, and I'm not just pointing to the brother and standing him out. I've seen many such behaviour from other individuals too.

Wa Alaikum Assalam

The irony is brother that I have spent rather a lot of time lately defending Adnan Oktar from attacks of things that probably aren't true and I still would, but really he is a Muslim in a position of great influence and his current very clear and multiply recorded un-Islamic social behaviour has the power to corrupt many young people, new Muslims and others who may naturally emulate him.

Strong words are sometimes the only words. The words that I have used describe the appearance that Adnan Oktar is very clearly projecting, nothing more and nothing less.

There are a lot of good capable Muslims who have devoted their lives to the mission of Harun Yahya and really I just hope and pray that they break away from him and use their skills to establish new unsullied organizations that produces similar works to those that are available under the Harun Yahya label, but which do not expose the easily lead to the influence of this new life stage of Adnan Oktar.

I also hope he himself mends his ways and goes back to being the extremely intelligent if somewhat eccentric spiritual Muslim that he was and leaves this worldliness and unsuitable behaviour behind him, but whether he does or not this present image will be remembered (InshaAllah) and that is why Muslims must produce alternative resources to replace his.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR8QK8yMiPo (that is very sad

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05-27-2012, 08:36 AM	#5
Gastonleruanich Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 592 Senior Member	Salaamu alaiykum I think the OP could have been worded much better. Less of the emotion and tangential bad words and more intellectual criticism. There are ettiquetes for warning against other people if I'm not mistaken, even if that person may be doing a lot of harm. In fact, tending to emotions will make the very people you aim to convince tend to their emotion and actually become more motivated to go against what you say. We have to be rationalists. This is a reminder to everyone including myself, and I'm not just pointing to the brother and standing him out. I've seen many such behaviour from other individuals too. Wa Alaikum Assalam The irony is brother that I have spent rather a lot of time lately defending Adnan Oktar from attacks of things that probably aren't true and I still would, but really he is a Muslim in a position of great influence and his current very clear and multiply recorded un-Islamic social behaviour has the power to corrupt many young people, new Muslims and others who may naturally emulate him. Strong words are sometimes the only words. The words that I have used describe the appearance that Adnan Oktar is very clearly projecting, nothing more and nothing less. There are a lot of good capable Muslims who have devoted their lives to the mission of Harun Yahya and really I just hope and pray that they break away from him and use their skills to establish new unsullied organizations that produces similar works to those that are available under the Harun Yahya label, but which do not expose the easily lead to the influence of this new life stage of Adnan Oktar. I also hope he himself mends his ways and goes back to being the extremely intelligent if somewhat eccentric spiritual Muslim that he was and leaves this worldliness and unsuitable behaviour behind him, but whether he does or not this present image will be remembered (InshaAllah) and that is why Muslims must produce alternative resources to replace his. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR8QK8yMiPo (that is very sad )
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