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Old 07-27-2010, 11:30 AM   #18
tmobmobfil

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The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "Convey from me even if it is One Ayaah."


but you conveyed half an ayah..as corrected in the other thread..

You said elsewhere in the other thread:

Because Allaah said to "Obey Allaah and Obey His Messenger, and those who have authority among you." Which includes the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.


Oh the same Saudi Kingdom who wont let you take that green dome off.. (that is part of my answer for the green dome).

So by my leave, please go and remove the green dome, or make it white how it was in earlier time, and if you get the authority you will surely go and break down the whole masjid and rebuild it with mud walls and palm tree trunks.. But its your bosses , the Saudi Kingdom who will jail you before you can pronounce the Seen of the Salafi.

Secondly on a more academical level, the hadith which you quoted for leveling the grounds:

a. does NOT mean to level it to the ground rather remove the solid structure on the grave. Our Deobandi Mullah also say that grave should not be fortified and built up. Imam Bukhari r.a brought a Baab which mentions that Nafi r.a mentions that Ibn Umar r.a used to recline with the grave. (although the wording is that Kana Ibn Umar Yajlisu Ala Qabr). I think Imam Muhammad r.a (one of our Hanafi Mullahs) mentions that this action was to show jawaz. Nonetheless, it shows that there was something of the grave and not completely leveled as you have suggested. According to the jamhoor Mullahs the way of making the grave is doing tasneem .. i.e making a hump like a camel's.

b.Secondly, if you deduce that it means that any structure on the grave must be destroyed then the first thing Sayiduna Ali r.a ought to have destroyed and leveled should have been Sayidatuna Ayesha r.a's house because it housed the mubarak grave of Rasulullah . AND Sayiduna Ali r.a did not!

c. The hadith is meticulous in mentioning that it was a hukm given to Ali r.a, who then later on in his time gave it to Abul Hiyaj Al Asadi to do the same. The point of note is not that the order was given, rather the point is that why the hukm was given to only ONE person. Rasulullah could have given the hukm to one and all and you would not find any graves at all! but this matter is something that is assigned to the one who has authority in it. And only Ma'moor bihi will carry it out. not that every joe can become the misdaaq of this ma'moor bihi and start leveling graves.

And I will be with you in it, once you establish the khilafat and the khalifah assigns this command. Untill then you can start standing up to the Saudi Kings and ask them as to why they order someon to do what the hadith mention.



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