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If it has the arabic in it than it necessary to go through these procedures but if it does not have the arabic in it, I would just throw it away... Because the Quran is Arabic....

Are you Muslim???

Ah, ok, then I got it right. So you are suggesting I compare the German translation of the Arabic with the English translation of the Arabic.


"Lightening and thunder come together" for humans in the 21st century yes. But this was not always the case, which is why I suppose different translations are used.
No, I don't think you can indiscriminately use either, as I do not know how lightning can praise anything as it does not make any noise and I do not know of thunder ever having punished/killed anyone as there is no electricity, just noise.

I agree completely with you on that one. Which is why I have asked people who actually speak classic Arabic and they have confirmed that this is in fact talking about thunder.

But we have already established that this book is not considered to be an authentic Koran due to its lack of the original Arabic.
I just wanted to make sure I get the details correct as there seems to be some disagreement here over the treatment of such text, when it is Koran-like or resembling the Koran.

Brother don't listen to every buddy here b/c some people are just laymen, and some are just fanatic illiterates, A Muslim never ever throws away the things which belongs to heavenly Books e.g. Torah, Bible, Quran, their translations, their commentaries etc..
Here are some knowledgeable persons like Godilali he belongs to Al Azhar University and sensible brother Maripat and some others.

A/c to your post:

And the praise by lightening should not be too difficult to understand. People do burst fire crackers to show joy. Even fireworks are used in celebrations.

Firstly of it is your wrong idea that lightning doesn’t make noise.

Secondly Brother Maripat, here is Allah Ta’ala is talking about the praise of Lightning not how to use Lightning.

Thirdly Allah Ta’ala Itself clears the issues:

تُسَبِّحُ لَهُ السَّمَاوَاتُ السَّبْعُ وَالْأَرْضُ وَمَنْ فِيهِنَّ وَإِنْ مِنْ شَيْءٍ إِلَّا يُسَبِّحُ بِحَمْدِهِ وَلَكِنْ لَا تَفْقَهُونَ تَسْبِيحَهُمْ إِنَّهُ كَانَ حَلِيمًا غَفُورًا

The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts [Allah] by His praise, but you do not understand their [way of] exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing and Forgiving. 17:44


And He also says:
اصْبِرْ عَلَى مَا يَقُولُونَ وَاذْكُرْ عَبْدَنَا دَاوُودَ ذَا الْأَيْدِ إِنَّهُ أَوَّابٌ (17) إِنَّا سَخَّرْنَا الْجِبَالَ مَعَهُ يُسَبِّحْنَ بِالْعَشِيِّ وَالْإِشْرَاقِ (18) وَالطَّيْرَ مَحْشُورَةً كُلٌّ لَهُ أَوَّابٌ (19)

Be patient over what they say and remember Our servant, David, the possessor of strength; indeed, he was one who repeatedly turned back [to Allah]. Indeed, We subjected the mountains [to praise] with him, exalting [Allah] in the [late] afternoon and [after] sunrise. And the birds were assembled, all with him repeating [praises]. 38:17-19


The overall meaning is that everything in this universe exalting God that is He is only one, on one is like him, nor in essence neither in attributes, don’t have humanly attributes like wives, children etc. Only the Humans and Demon (among the non-believers) deny this fact, therefore it is greatest crime of this universe that on one commit.


Hence God says:

تَكَادُ السَّمَاوَاتُ يَتَفَطَّرْنَ مِنْهُ وَتَنْشَقُّ الْأَرْضُ وَتَخِرُّ الْجِبَالُ هَدًّا (90) أَنْ دَعَوْا لِلرَّحْمَنِ وَلَدًا (91) وَمَا يَنْبَغِي لِلرَّحْمَنِ أَنْ يَتَّخِذَ وَلَدًا (92) إِنْ كُلُّ مَنْ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ إِلَّا آتِي الرَّحْمَنِ عَبْدًا (93)

The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son. And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son. There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant. 19:90-93


Now if there is any doubt left behind then please ask.