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**advabHixavoip** · 06-30-2012, 02:41 AM

As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh

I fail to see how the the Swiss citizens being trained in warfare and not being a standing affirm has got do with anything. A lot of countries have got conscript armies. Training citizens for warfare is not free. That's why I fail to see your point. Even countries without standing armies have to maintain.

Well the true jihad armies of the Khalifs were paid in booty taken from the enemy and any raids into the land of the kuffar fee sabillilah. They did not have huge armies in peace time just getting paid a salary by the government. It would be a drain. The modern kuffar do this now but it is increasingly becoming un-sustainable for them.

When kafir and modern Muslim governments cannot collect enough taxes to pay for their 'services' they borrow money and pay interest on it, future taxes go towards the payment of this interest. The government is not only doing this 'haraam' act, it is forcing future generations to pay for todays consumption. Is this halal? Can I spend and borrow money forcing my children and grandchildren to pay the interest on my debts? As I said modern governments do this.

The Destruction of the Usurious System

see: here

To impose the supremacy of our deen to Kufr is an obligation for the Muslims. Allah has made Jihad fisabilillah, halal for the Muslims. To fight fisabilillah, the first condition is that the banner of Islam must be raised high, it cannot be done by secret organizations. Kufr cannot be fought with the weapons of kufr, the military struggle cannot succeed unless we stop paying a usurious tribute to the kuffar.

06-30-2012, 02:41 AM	#9
advabHixavoip Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh I fail to see how the the Swiss citizens being trained in warfare and not being a standing affirm has got do with anything. A lot of countries have got conscript armies. Training citizens for warfare is not free. That's why I fail to see your point. Even countries without standing armies have to maintain. Well the true jihad armies of the Khalifs were paid in booty taken from the enemy and any raids into the land of the kuffar fee sabillilah. They did not have huge armies in peace time just getting paid a salary by the government. It would be a drain. The modern kuffar do this now but it is increasingly becoming un-sustainable for them. When kafir and modern Muslim governments cannot collect enough taxes to pay for their 'services' they borrow money and pay interest on it, future taxes go towards the payment of this interest. The government is not only doing this 'haraam' act, it is forcing future generations to pay for todays consumption. Is this halal? Can I spend and borrow money forcing my children and grandchildren to pay the interest on my debts? As I said modern governments do this. The Destruction of the Usurious System see: here To impose the supremacy of our deen to Kufr is an obligation for the Muslims. Allah has made Jihad fisabilillah, halal for the Muslims. To fight fisabilillah, the first condition is that the banner of Islam must be raised high, it cannot be done by secret organizations. Kufr cannot be fought with the weapons of kufr, the military struggle cannot succeed unless we stop paying a usurious tribute to the kuffar.
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