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What if Napoleon didn´t over-extend himself?
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Originally posted by Heraclitus
I'm thinking of building a civ4 scenario set during the time of the American Civil War in an alternative world where Napoleon won.
It starts in 1860.
I need a semiplausible scenario where there are several playable and relatively balanced nations around the world.
My first idea.
Germany
is unified a few decades early and rules over Austria, it has managed to break free from France's orbit and has successfully installed a Austrian Prince on Mexico's throne. They have also bought off Holland's old colonies from France. They have control over the eastern Balkans and Greece is their vassal. They control Scandinavia and Denmark. How were they going to pull that off. The reason that Napoleon III was able to put Maxmillian on the throne of Mexico in 1862 is because Mexico had p.o.'ed the European powers by defaulting on loans. The French arrived with the blessing of the British. The US was of course tied down with its own Civil War. Without the US being distracted and British support there's no way that an Austria prince is going to wind up ruling Mexico.
Russia
was severely weakened, this has encouraged it to focus its forces not on the Balkans and Eastern Europe but on Asia, the great game with Britain has started early and they have put more energy into colonizing Alaska, it was also their ships not American ones that forced Japan's market open. The Meji restoration starts a decade early.
Japan
has conquered Korea southern Manchuria and several cities on the Chinese coast and has helped Russia gain Mongolia and Northern Manchuria. Recently relations have cooled since Britain is offering Japan much more aid that the Russians ever did.
Napoleon's successors tried to keep
Spain
under their control but failed and a republican revolution took hold. A few years later much like the UK and the US in our world the two states buried the hatchet and worked together to keep the Latin American colonies under European control. Portugal a former English Ally was annexed by Spain as was most of Brazil. South America is mostly Spanish except the Guiana's and part's of Brazil which belong to France. The nation has also sought colonies in Africa but have only gotten small parcels of land. Recently as their grasp on South America grows stronger their relations with France have cooled. They are poised, much like the Germans two decades earlier, to leave France's orbit.
France controls:
Benelux
Italy
Western Balcans
All the Guiana's
Part of Brazil
all the Caribbean island states
Quebec I don't understand how you propose that France and Spain would manage to retain control of Latin America and the Caribbean. In order to do so they would have to obtain naval superiority. All of North Africa (except a Spanish Enclave, this includes Egypt)
Western Africa (much like our world's second French colonial empire)
Madagascar
Forces in Indochina that are poised to conquer it as a colony to keep an eye on the British, Japanese and Germans in the region. These weren't going to happen without naval superiority.
Britain controls:
Modern UK
Ireland
Panama (the only British city in the America's)
Hawaii
India (either directly or as a vassal)
Tibet (worthless mostly)
A city in China
Australia & New Zeland
All of Africa that is not French or German
(note: this refers to the coast, much of inner Africa is still unexplored and unclaimed though much less so than in our 1860)
Persia:
Turkey since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire
Arabia
Jerusalem
Afghanistan
They are trying to push Russia out of Central Asia and keep Britain out of Afghanistan. They are trying to install a Muslim government in India that would rebel against British rule. They have French support.
USA:
All of modern Canada except Quebec and the Western third of British Columbia (they sought an alliance with Napoleon at the right moment, this also gave them most of the land they would have gained in the Louisiana purchase)
They do not have California, Nevada and New Mexico are Mexican (German), since the German prince was with European help than able to keep them in line.
Oregon and Idaho are still theirs but Washington is Russian.
They control Liberia (worthless size 1 city)
The Union has minimal French support. France still resents the Americans for betraying them by grabbing Texas from Mexico (when Mexico was still Spanish and Spain was in French orbit). Nevertheless they can not afford for the Union to loose since this could lead to Britain regaining Canada and the Confederate States of America becoming a British satellite.
CSA
Exactly the same as in the real world except its Westernmost claim territories (west of Texas) these are part of Mexico.
They have strong British support who want to use them as a stepping stone to return to North America.
Ethiopia
is independent and controls the Sudan and the West African coast. It is at war with Britain and is loosing badly.
China
is very weak but a reform minded Emperor has taken the throne.
Nations from strongest to weakest:
France
Britain
Russia, Germany
Spain, America
CSA, Japan
Persia
China
India, Ethiopia Napoleon had the chance to procure three innovations, but he refused because he wa actually a rather conservative person. These three inventions, each offered to him by their inventors were: steamships, percussion caps and steam railroads. You could have fun with the supposition that he acquired all three.
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