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**georgshult** · 07-27-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Agathon

I disagree. I think he is the best possible nominee for the kind of political system he is operating in (which is why he has been such a success so far and so quickly). He's a fine orator, probably the best that the US has had since Ronald Reagan.

The fact that he is a success tells you more about the US political system than it does about him. This has been evident for a while, since voters chose Bush, who is pretty empty headed and incompetent over Al Gore, who was the opposite (does anyone honestly think that the US would be so reviled or that things like Katrina would have been so badly mishandled if Gore was the president?).

If democracy is to work, then we really should be electing people like Al Gore (or his conservative equivalent), people who make it their mission to be informed of the facts and who are responsible enough to change when new evidence comes to light. But instead, people seem to prefer electing incompetent cretins. Obama has the potential to be the next Warren Harding. He looks presidential, and that seems to be enough for people. But there seems to be nothing behind it.

As usual, people will attempt to blame someone else for this. The right will blame the vast liberal conspiracy and the left will blame the corporations, when the real blame ought to rest on the voters themselves or the system that allows them to vote. As usual, the thing that is causing the problem is the very last thing that people want to give up or blame. Agree about Obama but you will have to sell me Gore if you can. I have seen the documentary he made and it really made him seem like a truly good guy. I like what he is saying about global warming but I am really skeptical about Gore, wouldn't issue like that be the easiest way ever to make political capital without risking anything?

Gore has endorsed Obama who doesn't support carbon tax (Gore does or did iirc).
Also as the way I heard it he could have done more in his time as VP (and whatever else he has been) but didn't. Is this true? Afterall, the documentary an Inconvenient truth made Gore seem like somebody who has had climate change as a very important issue for himself even when he could have done something about it.

07-27-2008, 10:55 PM	#12
georgshult Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 552 Senior Member	Originally posted by Agathon I disagree. I think he is the best possible nominee for the kind of political system he is operating in (which is why he has been such a success so far and so quickly). He's a fine orator, probably the best that the US has had since Ronald Reagan. The fact that he is a success tells you more about the US political system than it does about him. This has been evident for a while, since voters chose Bush, who is pretty empty headed and incompetent over Al Gore, who was the opposite (does anyone honestly think that the US would be so reviled or that things like Katrina would have been so badly mishandled if Gore was the president?). If democracy is to work, then we really should be electing people like Al Gore (or his conservative equivalent), people who make it their mission to be informed of the facts and who are responsible enough to change when new evidence comes to light. But instead, people seem to prefer electing incompetent cretins. Obama has the potential to be the next Warren Harding. He looks presidential, and that seems to be enough for people. But there seems to be nothing behind it. As usual, people will attempt to blame someone else for this. The right will blame the vast liberal conspiracy and the left will blame the corporations, when the real blame ought to rest on the voters themselves or the system that allows them to vote. As usual, the thing that is causing the problem is the very last thing that people want to give up or blame. Agree about Obama but you will have to sell me Gore if you can. I have seen the documentary he made and it really made him seem like a truly good guy. I like what he is saying about global warming but I am really skeptical about Gore, wouldn't issue like that be the easiest way ever to make political capital without risking anything? Gore has endorsed Obama who doesn't support carbon tax (Gore does or did iirc). Also as the way I heard it he could have done more in his time as VP (and whatever else he has been) but didn't. Is this true? Afterall, the documentary an Inconvenient truth made Gore seem like somebody who has had climate change as a very important issue for himself even when he could have done something about it.
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