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**VeniHemealm** · 06-19-2008, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by snoopy369
Asher, as you well know sample size and sample self-selection does not mean 'everyone is off the same', but simply that you can't say anything significant about the data one way or the other. Even fifty or sixty employees is nothing, and who knows about the data... I'm just saying that the numbers don't add up to what you're describing. If the salary differential is truly that large, then there is a reason for it above and beyond people being morons. Plenty of people are morons when it comes to work, but most of them know about salary and care about that quite a lot...

Why do you think most people know what other people make in other states at other companies?

There's 350+ salary submissions for each company. There's an adequate sample size to draw comparisons.

Dan, I'd assume it is not a crappy place to work, given the salaries. You're making a lot of assumptions. Apple is well known to be a difficult/crappy place to work because Steve Jobs is widely known as an egomaniacal *******. He'll yell at you in public for anything, he'll put his name on all patents Apple has even if he had **** all to do with it, etc. He can crank out some nice products these days, but it takes a toll on the workers. This is reflected en masse on the 150+ reviews of Apple on glassdoor as well, in addition to several books published on Jobs and his work environment.

06-19-2008, 03:13 AM	#11
VeniHemealm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Originally posted by snoopy369 Asher, as you well know sample size and sample self-selection does not mean 'everyone is off the same', but simply that you can't say anything significant about the data one way or the other. Even fifty or sixty employees is nothing, and who knows about the data... I'm just saying that the numbers don't add up to what you're describing. If the salary differential is truly that large, then there is a reason for it above and beyond people being morons. Plenty of people are morons when it comes to work, but most of them know about salary and care about that quite a lot... Why do you think most people know what other people make in other states at other companies? There's 350+ salary submissions for each company. There's an adequate sample size to draw comparisons. Dan, I'd assume it is not a crappy place to work, given the salaries. You're making a lot of assumptions. Apple is well known to be a difficult/crappy place to work because Steve Jobs is widely known as an egomaniacal *****. He'll yell at you in public for anything, he'll put his name on all patents Apple has even if he had ** all to do with it, etc. He can crank out some nice products these days, but it takes a toll on the workers. This is reflected en masse on the 150+ reviews of Apple on glassdoor as well, in addition to several books published on Jobs and his work environment.
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