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Originally posted by Pekka
Yeah but look at the neighbouring countries. It's almost equal to fixing Africa, in fact it would only make sense to fix it while you're at it anyway .

But no, I mean it's not going to happen so... we're going to go on with this issue for a long time and I think the best we can do is to try to intervene the negative sides of this and weirdness that comes out of certain people and groups trying to evade the authorities in fear of being deported. new communities will rise, they will be poor so there will be even more small crime related stuff, maybe even few bigger crime problems as well, but at the same time, it becomes increasingly impossible to deport them.

So I figure the only thing we can realistically do is to try to fix some of the problems, these negative problems this thing creates within EU. So it's basically just reacting to problems... is this a good plan? No. This isn't even a plan. But like we've discussed, what can you realistically do? I don't see any single or combination of ways to remedy this. Stricter police control will do little good, so that’s only a little step and a uncomfortable one at that.

Perhaps we could finance the construction of factories in North Africa... we would have to lower some of our standards concerning human rights and labor rules, but these factories together with laxer immigration laws in those countries could take some pressure off us and they would experience some economic growth because of it... I suppose with proper legislation to encourage profitable investments in this direction could work in combination with direct political pressure on those countries to accept the China style slave- ehh I mean cheap labor.

This would be more realistic, this time truly neo-colonialist but It could work, we would have to lower our ethical standards to those employed by other powers. I could rational that in an illegal workshop in Europe they wouldn’t be much better off.