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Originally posted by Patroklos
It is easy, so why do you have such a hard time applying that rational evenly through all situations? Because the same conditions do not hold?

Are fetuses not alive? You may be able to argue they are not human yet, but they are alive. Depends on your definition of alive. Under-developed organisms being kept alive by machines on the fast-track to death is "alive" in some books -- not in mine.

If I kill all the HIV infected people in Africa will the disease not stop spreading? Will the countries in question not be able to feed their populations amongst other things? If we are playing the numbers, removing the HIV population is the only logical solution. This is not practical in any way, nor is it an extension of the same logic except in that you seem to think I enjoy murdering people...

And of course the most important distinction between the two scenarios is who is choosing to kill you, some one else or you? That is where your comparison is woefully lacking. It doesn't matter. Do you understand the concept of a rational decision? It doesn't matter who makes the decision, because only one really makes sense.

So the children are automatically ****ed if your in charge of the sinking ship then, right? What? I'd put the children in the boat. It's the rational decision.

However, the odds for four of them is zero. I glad you feel justified in volunteering to forfeit their lives for others. You would have made a great infantry officer in WWI. What do you not understand? Seriously. Four of them are going to die anyway. The question is, why do you want the other two to die as well? That's a bit odd to me. You're the only one here that's in favour of having zero survivors -- or you don't understand the science behind this here...

Interesting, since all had/have a chance at life, how are they doomed? Because they were all born WAY TOO prematurely due to complications arising from having all six fetuses. Perhaps this is the part that you still do not understand.

The reason all of them are on the fast track to death right now is because they refused to abort several of them. The reason they are all premature is there was so many of them. They are too young to be viable in any meaningful way. They will never become fully developed human beings. All of them are doomed because of this decision that you support.

What if all the fetuses were equal Asher? What do you do then? They are never equal. Don't waste my time.