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**staisacic** · 05-04-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Sn00py
snoopy, if you believe that society is a major factor in shaping whether you are gay or straight, then I guess the best way to prove that theory is to find a gay person in a tribe of very few people that are against male and male courtship.

I have not heard or read of any, but I have strong feelings that there are men who are born with attraction for men only; I profoundly disagree that society has much influence on what sex you prefer. Do you ask them when they come out of the womb?

If not, then environmental effects occur from day one. Who knows what might influence one's orientation? Maybe if you're entirely bottle-fed, you're more likely to be gay (no breast fixation). Maybe if you're allowed a pacifier longer, you're more likely to be gay (sucking fixation). Maybe if you have a close uncle as a child who is nicer to you than your parents, you're more likely to be gay.

Or any of those things could go the other way, too ... or none of them have any effect, which is much more likely since I'm just spouting them off at random. Point is, environmental/social effects are numerous and unmeasurable. I'm not talking about something as simple as social preference (though that has some effect undoubtedly, at least on the actual coming out), but about the complex interactions that make people into who we are.

05-04-2007, 01:10 PM	#10
staisacic Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Originally posted by Sn00py snoopy, if you believe that society is a major factor in shaping whether you are gay or straight, then I guess the best way to prove that theory is to find a gay person in a tribe of very few people that are against male and male courtship. I have not heard or read of any, but I have strong feelings that there are men who are born with attraction for men only; I profoundly disagree that society has much influence on what sex you prefer. Do you ask them when they come out of the womb? If not, then environmental effects occur from day one. Who knows what might influence one's orientation? Maybe if you're entirely bottle-fed, you're more likely to be gay (no breast fixation). Maybe if you're allowed a pacifier longer, you're more likely to be gay (sucking fixation). Maybe if you have a close uncle as a child who is nicer to you than your parents, you're more likely to be gay. Or any of those things could go the other way, too ... or none of them have any effect, which is much more likely since I'm just spouting them off at random. Point is, environmental/social effects are numerous and unmeasurable. I'm not talking about something as simple as social preference (though that has some effect undoubtedly, at least on the actual coming out), but about the complex interactions that make people into who we are.
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