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**cauddyVab** · 02-08-2007, 04:11 PM

First off, do people really care THAT much about the Mormon thing? When Romneys dad ran for prez in '68, it didnt come up at all, AFAIK (George Romney was sunk by a gaffe)

Second - look at how, say, Kos, treats a Ben Nelson "we give him more slack than Lieberman, cause he had to win in Nebraska" Think the GOP voters arent able to see that Giuliani had to win in you know, NYC? Babylon on the Hudson?

Third - I dont see McCain as flipflopping so terribly. Hes more flipped on rhetoric - in 2000 he dug into the fundies, and now he makes nice. But on policy, he was anti-abortion in 2000, and hes a moderate on judgeships now. I dont see him as a real flipper.

I dont know if he'll be able to keep his temper under control. Hes done a pretty good job of it the last few years, subject to extreme provocation (I mean heres a man who really cares about victory in Iraq, saw Rummy tossing it away, and managed to be civil in his calls for Rummy to resign)

I agree that hes very tied to the surge - if that fails robustly, hes history. On the other hand if it succeeds a big piece of the right and center will see him as prescient (the ones whod hate him for supporting the war anyway probably wont vote GOP anyway)

Hagel, AFAICT, aint such a maverick. Not on judicial nominations, not on global warming. Not on anything except for policy, and there he hasnt really done anything maverick till recently (when it was politically safe) hes mainly been gone on talk shows and thrown hints of not liking neocons.

McCains real problem with the GOP is still McCain Feingold, again something on which hes been consistent - this bugs the hell out of the deeply partisan GOP right, and they wont forgive him. Not sure how that partisant issue will play among ideological GOP constituencies (There arent that many high Tory George Will type voters)

02-08-2007, 04:11 PM	#15
cauddyVab Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 602 Senior Member	First off, do people really care THAT much about the Mormon thing? When Romneys dad ran for prez in '68, it didnt come up at all, AFAIK (George Romney was sunk by a gaffe) Second - look at how, say, Kos, treats a Ben Nelson "we give him more slack than Lieberman, cause he had to win in Nebraska" Think the GOP voters arent able to see that Giuliani had to win in you know, NYC? Babylon on the Hudson? Third - I dont see McCain as flipflopping so terribly. Hes more flipped on rhetoric - in 2000 he dug into the fundies, and now he makes nice. But on policy, he was anti-abortion in 2000, and hes a moderate on judgeships now. I dont see him as a real flipper. I dont know if he'll be able to keep his temper under control. Hes done a pretty good job of it the last few years, subject to extreme provocation (I mean heres a man who really cares about victory in Iraq, saw Rummy tossing it away, and managed to be civil in his calls for Rummy to resign) I agree that hes very tied to the surge - if that fails robustly, hes history. On the other hand if it succeeds a big piece of the right and center will see him as prescient (the ones whod hate him for supporting the war anyway probably wont vote GOP anyway) Hagel, AFAICT, aint such a maverick. Not on judicial nominations, not on global warming. Not on anything except for policy, and there he hasnt really done anything maverick till recently (when it was politically safe) hes mainly been gone on talk shows and thrown hints of not liking neocons. McCains real problem with the GOP is still McCain Feingold, again something on which hes been consistent - this bugs the hell out of the deeply partisan GOP right, and they wont forgive him. Not sure how that partisant issue will play among ideological GOP constituencies (There arent that many high Tory George Will type voters)
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