DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Chalk up another few thousand deaths for abstinence-only education

**Nashhlkq** · 06-03-2006, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

Yep. Look at the Botswana program. Not a mention of staying with your partner or abstinence whatsoever. Condoms were seen as a last resort in ABC, and I believe I have posted exactly that in previous threads. Condoms are a resort, not "last.

I found the woman's name, Noereen Kaleeba.

A link to her full interview:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/kaleeba.html

And what does this woman, who has done so much against AIDS in her country say about Condoms?

The ABC: Now, speaking as a Ugandan, I know that what has brought Uganda as far as it is today has been A, B [and] C together, not one of them singly. But what I hear now is, "Oh, now it's just A and B" -- abstinence and being faithful. There is some kind of a campaign to be quiet about the condom discussion, which is a disaster. It's a real cocktail for disaster, and I think for a person like me, who has been personally robbed not only of her husband but of many of my siblings, many of my friends, this debate of condom or no condom really makes me angry, because I know for a fact my husband had HIV; I don't have HIV. If you ask me to put it on record what actually protected me from his infection, it was a condom. We were using condoms for birth control.

We didn't know he had HIV … until he was diagnosed. I know for a fact if we hadn't been using condoms, I would have been infected by now. I also know that this divisive debate about whether abstinence works or doesn't work -- yes, abstinence works for some people for some time, but you can't say that abstinence works for everybody all the time. So really, we should stop this debate, I feel.

06-03-2006, 09:57 PM	#6
Nashhlkq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Yep. Look at the Botswana program. Not a mention of staying with your partner or abstinence whatsoever. Condoms were seen as a last resort in ABC, and I believe I have posted exactly that in previous threads. Condoms are a resort, not "last. I found the woman's name, Noereen Kaleeba. A link to her full interview: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/kaleeba.html And what does this woman, who has done so much against AIDS in her country say about Condoms? The ABC: Now, speaking as a Ugandan, I know that what has brought Uganda as far as it is today has been A, B [and] C together, not one of them singly. But what I hear now is, "Oh, now it's just A and B" -- abstinence and being faithful. There is some kind of a campaign to be quiet about the condom discussion, which is a disaster. It's a real cocktail for disaster, and I think for a person like me, who has been personally robbed not only of her husband but of many of my siblings, many of my friends, this debate of condom or no condom really makes me angry, because I know for a fact my husband had HIV; I don't have HIV. If you ask me to put it on record what actually protected me from his infection, it was a condom. We were using condoms for birth control. We didn't know he had HIV … until he was diagnosed. I know for a fact if we hadn't been using condoms, I would have been infected by now. I also know that this divisive debate about whether abstinence works or doesn't work -- yes, abstinence works for some people for some time, but you can't say that abstinence works for everybody all the time. So really, we should stop this debate, I feel.
	Quote