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**Hujkmlopes** · 06-25-2012, 03:45 AM

Hi, i want to ask a question about a few things, i'll list them here.
1.What shuold i expect while meditating, i have tried to meditate today and all i felt was only a trance state,while i was focusing on my breathing,at later stages because of the monkey mind, i forgot to breathe in the rythm (count 4 for in, and 4 for out- i don't hold my breath inside, because when i try to hold my breath in for 2 counts, i automatically hold it out for another 2 counts after the breathing out for 4 counts)

Don't expect anything in particular. Give yourself a specific amount of time and meditate for that time. Think of this as if you were reading a book or watching a movie, in the sense that you are just 'seeing what happens'. You don't have to expect anything in particular.
Depending on what type of meditation you are doing, the point is to keep focus on something- your breath, or your counting, or whatever. If holding your breath makes you tense, don't do it. You can observe your breath, do specific breathwork, do a mantra, whatever you want. But try to not expect anything, and see what happens.
2. When i try to initiate an OBE(i have never succeeded so far, at least there are none that i can remember)
all my muscles get tense and at that state,my body itself could look as if there was a rope attached to a belt on my stomach and i'm hanging on it, or at least it could be exactly like that if there wasn't a bed under me, my physical body goes up a little because of the contraction of the muscles on my leg and my body while i feel some feeling comes from deep within and pushes me up(because i visualize that for the obe, and because i couldn't get any tactile sense while i tried that rope technique, maybe i didn't understand that completely, maybe something else preventsme from feelig that way i don't know).When i realize this i immediately return to my original position, and sometimes i can go on with obe for a bit, inceasing thepower of that feeling i have, but while that happens all things start happening again, and at a point, relaxing my body results in the loss of that feeling, so i have to start again if i want to try again. Why does this happen?
see ya for now... Please write out exactly what you do to OBE? You described what the exit technique feels like when you're doing it, but I don't know what steps you took to get to that point, or what you did afterwards.
The more specific you are, the more advice we can give you depending on what you're doing.
Thanks.
CF.

06-25-2012, 03:45 AM	#2
Hujkmlopes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Hi, i want to ask a question about a few things, i'll list them here. 1.What shuold i expect while meditating, i have tried to meditate today and all i felt was only a trance state,while i was focusing on my breathing,at later stages because of the monkey mind, i forgot to breathe in the rythm (count 4 for in, and 4 for out- i don't hold my breath inside, because when i try to hold my breath in for 2 counts, i automatically hold it out for another 2 counts after the breathing out for 4 counts) Don't expect anything in particular. Give yourself a specific amount of time and meditate for that time. Think of this as if you were reading a book or watching a movie, in the sense that you are just 'seeing what happens'. You don't have to expect anything in particular. Depending on what type of meditation you are doing, the point is to keep focus on something- your breath, or your counting, or whatever. If holding your breath makes you tense, don't do it. You can observe your breath, do specific breathwork, do a mantra, whatever you want. But try to not expect anything, and see what happens. 2. When i try to initiate an OBE(i have never succeeded so far, at least there are none that i can remember) all my muscles get tense and at that state,my body itself could look as if there was a rope attached to a belt on my stomach and i'm hanging on it, or at least it could be exactly like that if there wasn't a bed under me, my physical body goes up a little because of the contraction of the muscles on my leg and my body while i feel some feeling comes from deep within and pushes me up(because i visualize that for the obe, and because i couldn't get any tactile sense while i tried that rope technique, maybe i didn't understand that completely, maybe something else preventsme from feelig that way i don't know).When i realize this i immediately return to my original position, and sometimes i can go on with obe for a bit, inceasing thepower of that feeling i have, but while that happens all things start happening again, and at a point, relaxing my body results in the loss of that feeling, so i have to start again if i want to try again. Why does this happen? see ya for now... Please write out exactly what you do to OBE? You described what the exit technique feels like when you're doing it, but I don't know what steps you took to get to that point, or what you did afterwards. The more specific you are, the more advice we can give you depending on what you're doing. Thanks. CF.
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