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**offinoNem** · 07-12-2011, 04:51 AM

So you believe that my problem isn't necessarily exit techniques, but becuase I'm not in deep enough trance?

Possibly, if you're moving while trying to exit, yes.
And also because my energy body isn't loosened enough? Not so much 'not loose enough', but there seems to be a need for more control, which is why I gave you the above exercises.

I find it weird... cuz sometimes I do feel as though I've exited (like just today i tried, and it kinda felt like I exited, but not so sure) but I couldn't see anything at all. Vision is irrelevant to projecting, it is common to have no sight at times when in the RTZ, because your energy body doesn't have 'eyes', interaction is information gathering, like radar. Especially if you're close to your physical body. If you exit and can't see, get away from your physical body, or leave the room if possible. If vision doesn't come back, request it forcefully.

I also get what i can only describe as "fake vision"... I'm imagining what I can see, but I can't ACTUALLY see anything. I'm not sure what you mean by this- it sounds like you're perceiving your environment with your energy body (like radar) which is normal. Sometimes you process them as vision, sometimes you don't.
I get indescribable sensations throughout... they are weird in the sense that they aren't like vibrations, but they are different than me just laying there. Sometimes it feels like I exit, then it'll feel like i exit again, and a little while later it happens again.... so this is why I'm a little confused if I'm really exiting or not. Do you get what I mean or am I just weird? Not weird, but you sound confused. If you're having multiple exits, it sounds like you're stuck in a loop, and it's a matter of time and practice, but you are projecting, it seems to me.

07-12-2011, 04:51 AM	#11
offinoNem Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	So you believe that my problem isn't necessarily exit techniques, but becuase I'm not in deep enough trance? Possibly, if you're moving while trying to exit, yes. And also because my energy body isn't loosened enough? Not so much 'not loose enough', but there seems to be a need for more control, which is why I gave you the above exercises. I find it weird... cuz sometimes I do feel as though I've exited (like just today i tried, and it kinda felt like I exited, but not so sure) but I couldn't see anything at all. Vision is irrelevant to projecting, it is common to have no sight at times when in the RTZ, because your energy body doesn't have 'eyes', interaction is information gathering, like radar. Especially if you're close to your physical body. If you exit and can't see, get away from your physical body, or leave the room if possible. If vision doesn't come back, request it forcefully. I also get what i can only describe as "fake vision"... I'm imagining what I can see, but I can't ACTUALLY see anything. I'm not sure what you mean by this- it sounds like you're perceiving your environment with your energy body (like radar) which is normal. Sometimes you process them as vision, sometimes you don't. I get indescribable sensations throughout... they are weird in the sense that they aren't like vibrations, but they are different than me just laying there. Sometimes it feels like I exit, then it'll feel like i exit again, and a little while later it happens again.... so this is why I'm a little confused if I'm really exiting or not. Do you get what I mean or am I just weird? Not weird, but you sound confused. If you're having multiple exits, it sounds like you're stuck in a loop, and it's a matter of time and practice, but you are projecting, it seems to me.
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