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**Rwujnezq** · 12-04-2011, 06:15 PM

....that hypnagogic imagery is something like a random firing of neurons in the brain to produce "dream-like" images or do these scenes actually have some relation to a higher meaning in the astral realm?....

It always shivers me when I read of the "random firing of neurons in the brain", since this being given as a cause for ANY experience in altered state (hypnagogics, dream, etc.) is a purely hypothetical assumption based on materialism and 'scientism' (not science!). You should not fall into this trap.

I am convinced that there is no such thing as a 'random' firing of neurons. And yes, there is a different cause and a substantial 'reality' behind every experience that mainstream (science? / opinion) labels 'hallucination', 'delusion', 'illusion' or whatever. As an experiencer of AP you might already know that "Thought" is something real. Though forms are real. There is nothing "UN"-real. However, there might be MIS-interpretations of data we receive and this might be a way to still justify the term 'hallucination', although I do not use it anymore.

For me, the brain is a filter that limits our range of electromagnetical "input" and only downloads the information and/or accesses non-local memory which is to our availabilty here. But even that is not stored locally in the brain, it is just access to the part which is 'accessible' to us (call it in 'fields' or 'non-local continuum' or whatever). But I am convinced that nothing of this is purely random. Randomness just appears to be what we do not understand on our lower level but which makes probably perfect sense on a higher being level (of our(higher)selves). Just my 2 cents on this.

12-04-2011, 06:15 PM	#2
Rwujnezq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 545 Senior Member	....that hypnagogic imagery is something like a random firing of neurons in the brain to produce "dream-like" images or do these scenes actually have some relation to a higher meaning in the astral realm?.... It always shivers me when I read of the "random firing of neurons in the brain", since this being given as a cause for ANY experience in altered state (hypnagogics, dream, etc.) is a purely hypothetical assumption based on materialism and 'scientism' (not science!). You should not fall into this trap. I am convinced that there is no such thing as a 'random' firing of neurons. And yes, there is a different cause and a substantial 'reality' behind every experience that mainstream (science? / opinion) labels 'hallucination', 'delusion', 'illusion' or whatever. As an experiencer of AP you might already know that "Thought" is something real. Though forms are real. There is nothing "UN"-real. However, there might be MIS-interpretations of data we receive and this might be a way to still justify the term 'hallucination', although I do not use it anymore. For me, the brain is a filter that limits our range of electromagnetical "input" and only downloads the information and/or accesses non-local memory which is to our availabilty here. But even that is not stored locally in the brain, it is just access to the part which is 'accessible' to us (call it in 'fields' or 'non-local continuum' or whatever). But I am convinced that nothing of this is purely random. Randomness just appears to be what we do not understand on our lower level but which makes probably perfect sense on a higher being level (of our(higher)selves). Just my 2 cents on this.
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