hi to all! i have read and reread the posts on this thread and can see that it has developed along the lines of sharing ideas, experiences and offering helpful information and insights.there are certain points that have been lingering in my mind that i would like to address. we are all aware that existence on this plane poses certain difficulties and pain through which we must progress in the course of our spiritual evolution. people, events, our surroundings etc. are the catalysts which spur on this ever spiralling expansion of conciousness. are we not all players in this game? each of us, individually, is a catalyst in the events of the lives of other people, our environment at a local, national and global level. considering that we are all learning from each other, those who may be considered "spiritually immature" become the catalyst that is in turn teaching others something equally difficult : the art of patience!