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detlef,

thanks for posting on this. it used to be when i closed my eyes "the shapes" had mostly a green hue. now, most of the time "these shapes" have mostly a purple (you used violet) hue. i really liked how you wrote about these - not really forms or anything in particular... also, the "time of day" you mention - could have something to do with certain brain frequency? alpha would be my guess... pretty much 100% agreement on what you wrote.

one question, have you had "a fractal effect", where the forms would seem to zoom in or out and repeat?

again, always nice to know others experience similar things! wish i had a little more to offer than my subjective perception...

as far as these "visions" detlef and i are referring to, i'm not sure they're generated from the pineal gland/third eye. simply an altered state of perception...

art

p.s. - when it comes to the topic of "seeing lights" there are alot of different "types" based on my experience. here would be my list, so far. i apologize in advance for the wording here!

1. prana lights - little swirling lights that can be seen against a blue sky. usually perceived during calm state of mind. focus on clear sky (helps if there are trees nearby) and they start to appear. don't have much success in trying to focus in on any single individual and "follow its path". shape can best be described as tiny spheres, sometimes comets. duration is as long as you want...

2. flashes - intense white light usually in the peripheral vision. tend to happen randomly and don't last too long. usually experience inside while reflecting upon information, researching information, writing posts, etc. have not had any success in trying to focus on them, just happen to notice them from time to time, again in peripheral. shapes vary. duration is less than a second.

3. spheres - these tend to occur while i am teaching (i'm a mathematics teacher). alot larger than the prana lights, and occur singularly (only one at a time). usually notice that when they get my attention and i focus on them, they tend to move off and disappear. shape is as mentioned. duration has been 3-5 seconds.

4. "larger spheres"/orbs - these differ from the sphere's mentioned above in that their size was much larger and there was also some transparency to them (hence the use of the word orb). has only happened twice and both times i sensed other people could see them. both times was during class. shape again as mentioned. duration was more than 5 seconds.

the above are based on what i've seen with open eyes. with closed eyes,

5. blobs/forms - the content of the post prior to post script.

6. geometric shapes - usually can perceive if i rub my eyes and/or put a little pressure. i don't attribute this to anything special in particular, as it takes more than thought (physical action) to achieve.

7. large white light - happened only once during an obe.

that is probably the best i can offer at this time. i don't see auras and am very poor at recall after meditation. have had only a handful of visions which i do believe were seen with third eye. always have to be a little skeptical of an over-active imagination, but #'s 2, 3, & 4 have happened randomly while 1, 5, 6, & 7 happen through intent.