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you are one step away from going on an out of body experience when this is happening. metaman, i can confirm this second hand, from a book i found soul traveler by albert taylor but i imagine there are other great resources out there for advice. do you have any good ones. or more from your own expereience.

i've experienced a feeling of falling which taylor said preceded "falling right out of your body" but i usually wake up before i get there. lately, i just am too tired at night and i think this hinders me.

yeah, i've got that too, i think it's just your heartbeat that you're tuned into.
i sometimes "see" my heart beating trough my eyes, pretty weird, my vision shakes on the beat of my heart. de mango, it sounds like you may be separating from you body but not totally leaving it. "see" what happens if you think about being somewhere else like another room in you house, to start off easy.

oh yeah, taylor's own experiences were with waking up paralyzed which he was able to fix with a mind trick. this was how his own inquiries began with obe. his mother and (?uncle) also had the paralysis experience.

i think obe is really what pineal activation is all about, basically the former being the effect of the latter. i think this is basically what david has described in other places in reference to pineal activation.

physically, anatomically we can explain a great deal phenomena. however, the far reaches of our ablities extend past the skills of categorizing and cataloging. dream on>.
dan