[Piemonedmow]

dw and others have cited much evidence of how a biological body may entirely leave our familiar universe, and a case in point is that an entire planeload of people may have left our normal space/time framework, passing into third density time/space - a realm of three dimensions, but reciprocally related to space/time in the sense that the roles of travel/duration are reversed - and re-appeared ten minutes later, with all on-board chronometers ten minutes advanced as compared to everyone else.

i agree that is much evidence that biological bodies have shifted from our normal space/time into some other presence. to assume that such a shift went from our particular 3d space/time to our 3d time/space might be too quick as assumption. quantum physics says that there are parallel universes that exist right along side of this universe so to jump to the conclusion that any physical bodies transference arrives within not only our universe but that arrival is in sync with one of the upper dimensions associated with this planetary system would be to me inappropriate. we know from the philadelphia experiment that such shifts can occur but when attempted from forced action can have detrimental effects.

from the loo we know that the logos for this solar ring created "natural laws" that provide for the type chemical body that exists for manifestation within the 3d reality on this planet. so the question is; why would you want this particular form chemical body designed specifically for use on this planet to transfigure or transmute into anything else? there is already a general process within the universe that provides the mechanism for movement to and from the static energy state of our higher consciousness. we move from the use of this chemical body format back to our energetic selves then from there we have the ability to manifest directly into whatever container form is required for manifestation within any other logos created system.

the only reason i can see for all of this effort is to provide an avenue where the projections (ego/personality) of the mind/body portion of this 3d existence is maintained after the conversion to 4d. it would appear that this effort is simply a means for soothing the fear of an extinguishment of what we have wrongly become associated with as being us. all the mystery schools, all the ancient teachings, the loo, every reference is geared toward us embracing totally that we are not our egos or personalities therefore the transition from this manifestation back to static state is not accompanied by any loss.

unless we are chosen to be one of the transition team that remains with the planet and goes through the rigors of the shift from 3d to 4d, often referred to as the caretakers, there is no need of the physical body. we simply will pass to our static state and if we have sufficient levels of light then we will incarnate back onto the planet in a body that is either fully 4d compatible or at least a transitioning 4d body [one that may be more 4d and less 3d than the ones currently being produced]. when everything is said and done i would love to be one of the caretakers and will continue to strive toward gaining sufficient consciousness growth to achieve that level. if i fall short, so what, i'll just process through and then reincarnate into whatever learn/teach environment that will provide the growth i need.

one wonders if the process 'we' loosely refer to as death can apply here in any of it's meanings, as for ten minutes these bodies did seemingly not exist in third density space/time. well, i don't think during that ten minutes one would conclude that they experienced anything near the "death" process. the "death" process has various trademark attributes that seems to be universal to everyone's experience [check out the information available on nde experiences]. there are some "mystics" who are alive today on this planet that has experienced ldar [little death and resurrection] and you might want to check out what you can find on those experiences as they give more detail sometimes than the ndes. the key is that there are elements which are indentical throughout these experiences. the instances of bodily shifts from space/time do not manifest these same key elements so it would be difficult to say that the "death experience would apply in any of these instances.

more next time.

asa