[Eugen80]

one thing in relationship to all this that we may wish to consider is the ra-sourced and perplexing complication of the current harvest event; that at this historical juncture the planet shall no longer continue to host third density, unlike previous harvest junctures of this grand cycle.

i'm not sure where the interpretation got drawn that the planet would instantaneously stop hosting third density. as i recall the process will involve the creation of appropriate incarnation vehicle through bisexual reproduction evolution which would mean the simultaneous hosting of third density, followed by increasingly modified third density toward fourth density bodies, until the eventual production of fourth density appropriate bodies.

densities one, two, and three co-exist here, and may not require separation of experiential harvest, even as previous harvest events might not require discrete differentiation of density separation.

we definitely have the three densities one, two, and three in coexistence at this time. we will have moving forward the co-existence of one, two, three [more and more modified], and eventually evolve into probably, don't know for sure, some combination of at least one, two, and four. remembering that every density has many sub-densities then there will be some low four that is barely out of three. we know from ra that the evolution from two to three wasn't discrete as the preparation of the appropriate incarnation vehicles for third occurred over a generation and one-half minimum. you would also have to think that the answer was given to as how long did it take for the evolution of the 3d type body not how long did it take the planet to go from total topside of two to predominately three.

given the pronouncements of the ra, and the scenario of the separation of experience between third and fourth, we are left with imagining a scenario wherein we shall soon, in terms of the grand @ 75,000 year cycle, no longer be here. if, as ra states, fourth density is electrically incompatible with third, and the planet will be fully fourth density by 2011 - 2013, may we take it as being suggested that harvest is imminent; and that the 100 - 700 year experience with transition may take place in some other place than where we are now?

i need to go back and refresh on the exact wording ra used when some of the key time frames were given. i have found 5th and 6th density communications are usually quite literal but you have to allow for distortion derived from the instrument or channel and for the context in which the question was asked. barring misunderstanding of the question being asked the answer is derived from taking the question quite literally in most cases. i think what has most confused is not the loo material but trying to integrate materials derived from other sources into the loo material. in question 1.8 don asks about the coming planetary changes and ra responds "the changes are very, very trivial. we do not concern ourselves with the conditions which bring about harvest". the changes to ra are trivial but that probably isn't the case for most people on this planet. what is of import though is the delivery of the phrase "conditions which bring about harvest". it is a tell-tale phrase that says there will be those that are harvested due to the changes that are to occur. now here is room for speculation as to whether the changes are physical changes or are they energetic changes.

i wonder if time/space considerations hold a key to figuring this out for ourselves. again, i welcome alternate suggestions, even as this harvest seems unlike the rest. mark

the only figuring out ourselves that would be needed is in the cases where don failed to adequately ask sufficient questions to thoroughly probe an area of interest. i don't find this harvest to be unlike the rest except in the sourcing of the incarnation entities destined to initially use the 4d bodies that are created through bisexual reproduction evolution. in the 2 to 3 shift the incarnation entities were supplimented heavily by entities other than those ascending directly from terra based 2d.

i'll get back to finishing up on the time frames after i refresh myself on the details.

asa