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**mireOpekrhype** · 01-31-2010, 04:53 PM

hello fellow seekers of truth and light

i need suggestions on how one can help loved ones in this great transition we are going through.

it hurts me (it used to hurt a lot, but not so much anymore) to see how people around me are so skeptics about ufo, 2012 and all the rest going on at the moment. i just had a very intense discussion (hence my post here) with my brother in law about secret government or the illuminati, and how the ufo phenomena has been get secret from us. he (like so many) does not believe that anyone would do such thing.

i must admit that my arguments were a bit poor, just mentioning all the videos and articles i have read on the net. his replies was that the net is full of conspire theories and the ufo thing is just another of the many coming every day.

i also talked about how we have been kept away from great science just because the group who manages this world want us to be ignorant. he laughs when i mention the physics of torsion field.

i don't believe in trying to convinced anybody into anything, but how can one be more prepared for a good and solid argument?

what kind of books or website can one go for better understanding of what's really going on?

i want to be more knowledgeable and better prepared. it is important because people just laugh at you and they seems to win when they say: show me the proof and i will believe!

funny world this is. people are living a lie but they can't see it.

thegate

i know your frustrations as i would like my family and friends to understand the same things i do, and it's very difficult to convince people of life-changing ideas in small conversations. most people are scared (deep down subconcsiously of changing their mind about everything they know) and don't want to hear big explanations anyway. like david has said, reading & talking is like a 56k modem, and it takes a lonnng time to 'download' & process this information (years). so it's extremely difficult breaking it down for people in bite-sized chunks when it's taken me so many hours of research and comprehension, affirmed by synchronicities & guidance that really help solidify knowing. so, my policy now is that i don't speak of these things unless they are brought up and the person wants to know. again, it will just open up a 'can of worms' & will inevitably lead to hours of talk if the person is curious (which they're usually not), and there usually isn't time for that in day to day activities, at work, etc. so in my opinion, if a person is interested, then just reccommend excellent authors, articles, and videos that have helped you down the path because ultimately everybody has to seek the answers for themselves. you can't give somebody enlightenment. in the case with your brother, maybe send him some emails with short, well done videos that might spark his interest to further seeking.

01-31-2010, 04:53 PM	#26
mireOpekrhype Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 496 Senior Member	hello fellow seekers of truth and light i need suggestions on how one can help loved ones in this great transition we are going through. it hurts me (it used to hurt a lot, but not so much anymore) to see how people around me are so skeptics about ufo, 2012 and all the rest going on at the moment. i just had a very intense discussion (hence my post here) with my brother in law about secret government or the illuminati, and how the ufo phenomena has been get secret from us. he (like so many) does not believe that anyone would do such thing. i must admit that my arguments were a bit poor, just mentioning all the videos and articles i have read on the net. his replies was that the net is full of conspire theories and the ufo thing is just another of the many coming every day. i also talked about how we have been kept away from great science just because the group who manages this world want us to be ignorant. he laughs when i mention the physics of torsion field. i don't believe in trying to convinced anybody into anything, but how can one be more prepared for a good and solid argument? what kind of books or website can one go for better understanding of what's really going on? i want to be more knowledgeable and better prepared. it is important because people just laugh at you and they seems to win when they say: show me the proof and i will believe! funny world this is. people are living a lie but they can't see it. thegate i know your frustrations as i would like my family and friends to understand the same things i do, and it's very difficult to convince people of life-changing ideas in small conversations. most people are scared (deep down subconcsiously of changing their mind about everything they know) and don't want to hear big explanations anyway. like david has said, reading & talking is like a 56k modem, and it takes a lonnng time to 'download' & process this information (years). so it's extremely difficult breaking it down for people in bite-sized chunks when it's taken me so many hours of research and comprehension, affirmed by synchronicities & guidance that really help solidify knowing. so, my policy now is that i don't speak of these things unless they are brought up and the person wants to know. again, it will just open up a 'can of worms' & will inevitably lead to hours of talk if the person is curious (which they're usually not), and there usually isn't time for that in day to day activities, at work, etc. so in my opinion, if a person is interested, then just reccommend excellent authors, articles, and videos that have helped you down the path because ultimately everybody has to seek the answers for themselves. you can't give somebody enlightenment. in the case with your brother, maybe send him some emails with short, well done videos that might spark his interest to further seeking.
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