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**VINPELA** · 09-15-2008, 08:37 PM

did jesus exist or not?? i have heard so many strong arguments for both sides. i am sure many of you have seen the film "zeitgeist".

imho, yes, he did indeed exist, but didn't do many of the things he's credited for. the christian religion was, for the most part, created by constantine, (except for paul's [rather large] part) and he just rolled different aspects of many religions into one, so that it would appeal to a wider audience.

yes i've seen zeitgeist, and it may not be perfect, but it raises many valid points. i still have some vague, past-life memories of fighting to the death, while trying to protect him, and it seemed pretty real to me.
over 40 authors and libraries worth of writings that have survived the times of jesus life and shortly after, and he is not mentioned once. even by st. paul. imagine that, in all of st. paul's letters, he never quotes jesus or talks about a story of jesus. not once. paul was supposed to have been there! if you witnessed the son of god do miracles and were the first to spread his church you would be quoting him left and right and speaking of his incredible deeds. i don't know where you read this, but some of the historical writers of the time did indeed mention jesus. and also paul was not there at the time, and he did not witness "the son of god do miracles" because he never met him. paul didn't enter the picture until years after the death of jesus, so maybe that's why he didn't mention him.

09-15-2008, 08:37 PM	#4
VINPELA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	did jesus exist or not?? i have heard so many strong arguments for both sides. i am sure many of you have seen the film "zeitgeist". imho, yes, he did indeed exist, but didn't do many of the things he's credited for. the christian religion was, for the most part, created by constantine, (except for paul's [rather large] part) and he just rolled different aspects of many religions into one, so that it would appeal to a wider audience. yes i've seen zeitgeist, and it may not be perfect, but it raises many valid points. i still have some vague, past-life memories of fighting to the death, while trying to protect him, and it seemed pretty real to me. over 40 authors and libraries worth of writings that have survived the times of jesus life and shortly after, and he is not mentioned once. even by st. paul. imagine that, in all of st. paul's letters, he never quotes jesus or talks about a story of jesus. not once. paul was supposed to have been there! if you witnessed the son of god do miracles and were the first to spread his church you would be quoting him left and right and speaking of his incredible deeds. i don't know where you read this, but some of the historical writers of the time did indeed mention jesus. and also paul was not there at the time, and he did not witness "the son of god do miracles" because *he never met him.* paul didn't enter the picture until years after the death of jesus, so maybe that's why he didn't mention him.
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