[mikaelluioy]

foosnik: i just heard another theory, and they really backed it up with some very detailed and complicated reasoning, that jesus was the son of julias caesar and cleopatra. and when the assassination of caesar happened is when jesus was sent away to live with friends and begin his spiritual journey. i won't even begin to try to list the whole story because it would take up a lot of space. but just let me know if you want a link to the video. it is very interesting.

well, yes, the link might be worth a gander. i was looking for something to read on going to bed or waking up a day or two ago and pulled the gospel of mary magdalene off the shelf. it's a document with several missing pages that was found in some archive around 1885 or so, and contains some interesting teaching material in the book, with a lot of commentary, most of which is caballistic speculation, but i was reminded of the fact that there is (or was, if madass hussein or the us raiders currently killing about 300 iraqis a day didn't wipe them out) a sect centered around northern iraq, but with a few stray believers in syria and the rest of the middle east that adheres to the idea that the nt was a cover story for john the baptist, and (my idea) jesus may have been the "wicked priest" in the dead sea scrolls that usurped his place in qumran, the cut off "head" being a symbol for that (like the mafia idea that if you cut off the head [like they may have killed jfk {as willing surrogate agents of the cia, which wanted him dead because he was passing on their reports to kruschchev through rfk}, expecting rfk would get off their case, but johnson kept him on, necessitating, in their view {and the cia's}, his assassination, which was a lot "cleaner" in diverting attention from their rôle]). if true, that could produce further obfuscation as to the place of jesus in "real" history. another problem in this whole scenario that i ran into recently was the authors of [please pm for title] (which i finally got around to starting to read this week) found documents missing in the vatican archives (which are supposedly open now to scrutiny) that relate to the early church history as seen through its founders. but it's an accepted fact by most scholars that christianity was a result of massive alteration of its original nature as a "brotherhood" when it was transformed into the state religion of the roman empire by constantine, who laid all sorts of pagan beliefs on the original supposed teachings, followed by a radical "cleansing" of all the gnostic beliefs through destruction of manuscripts and possibly wholesale "ethnic cleansing". jeshua's life would just be a major agatha christie mystery if it wasn't so central to much of what's happened globally since (a butterfly flaps its wings in brazil, and katrina happens? - i recently saw something that claimed it might have been a haarp project to divert attention from political happenings at the time or part of the ongoing plan to destroy the integrity of the us, but then, another source that said that haarp was a "good guys" project set up to hopefully prevent the poles from shifting - you pays your money and takes your choice, depending on your ct orientation). so much for a brief reply.

peace, philip