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**Mboxmaja** · 08-29-2008, 05:17 AM

a very interesting discussion going on here. it's great to see people can air their views and be heard in an objective manner . i love this site.

firstly i must say that i have not been following the presidential nominations as thouroughly as many of you good folk, so can only put forward my opinions based on limited exposure and an element of gut feeling.

i think it's fair to say there is a general feeling in the uk that the re-election of george bush was an incredible mistake by the american electorate, and somewhat lessened our opinion of the way the americans think, rightly or wrongly, (personally i think it was rigged but that's another story!).

obama is seen as a breath of fresh air with his heart being in the right place. there is much more good feeling towards him than whoever was nominated as the republican candidate for reasons stated above, the bush legacy.

my humble opinion is that it does not really matter who is voted the next us president as the world is on a course that cannot be deflected by any one individual. that said, i would prefer to see obama win through as i see the journey as being lot more harmonious for us all if he does.

love to you all

jim

hello bluebird, how ya doing tonight? man, i have had this conversation with so many europeans.

can i break it down for you?

#1: john kerry was a joke

#2: i agree with you in that i think the election was rigged.

#3: and most importantly, the media in this country is a joke. if you look on a map of the country showing in what parts of the country voted for who, you will see that the more sophisticated states, such as new york and california, overwhelmingly voted for john kerry. the states in the middle don't have the cultural diversity that the outside states do so all they base and shape their opinions entirely from watching our crappy media. our media is so slanted and full of fear and propaganda that you can hardly blame americans for not being smarter. i was just as amazed as you and my pride for my country fell tremendously as well.

but in a way george bush was actually good for this country. he was such a total retard that he woke many complacent americans up to stuff that has been going on since before nixon. now people are aware of the truth of the greed that dominates our law makers. and the fascism is becoming very clear and apparent regardless of how hard fox news tries to say otherwise.

he was such a blubbering fool and so transparent that we all can see the corruption very clearly now.

so for that, thank you bush. you can't win for losing!

oh and on another whole topic. it does matter who gets elected because this can be a gentle, smooth transition or a violent, turbulent shift. if mccain gets elected we will surely have world war 3 on our hands. and they will start drafting us americans to fight their stupid war. that means that they can force me to fight or send me to prison. hell no! we won't go!

take it light,
foo

08-29-2008, 05:17 AM	#33
Mboxmaja Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	a very interesting discussion going on here. it's great to see people can air their views and be heard in an objective manner . i love this site. firstly i must say that i have not been following the presidential nominations as thouroughly as many of you good folk, so can only put forward my opinions based on limited exposure and an element of gut feeling. i think it's fair to say there is a general feeling in the uk that the re-election of george bush was an incredible mistake by the american electorate, and somewhat lessened our opinion of the way the americans think, rightly or wrongly, (personally i think it was rigged but that's another story!). obama is seen as a breath of fresh air with his heart being in the right place. there is much more good feeling towards him than whoever was nominated as the republican candidate for reasons stated above, the bush legacy. my humble opinion is that it does not really matter who is voted the next us president as the world is on a course that cannot be deflected by any one individual. that said, i would prefer to see obama win through as i see the journey as being lot more harmonious for us all if he does. love to you all jim hello bluebird, how ya doing tonight? man, i have had this conversation with so many europeans. can i break it down for you? #1: john kerry was a joke #2: i agree with you in that i think the election was rigged. #3: and most importantly, the media in this country is a joke. if you look on a map of the country showing in what parts of the country voted for who, you will see that the more sophisticated states, such as new york and california, overwhelmingly voted for john kerry. the states in the middle don't have the cultural diversity that the outside states do so all they base and shape their opinions entirely from watching our crappy media. our media is so slanted and full of fear and propaganda that you can hardly blame americans for not being smarter. i was just as amazed as you and my pride for my country fell tremendously as well. but in a way george bush was actually good for this country. he was such a total retard that he woke many complacent americans up to stuff that has been going on since before nixon. now people are aware of the truth of the greed that dominates our law makers. and the fascism is becoming very clear and apparent regardless of how hard fox news tries to say otherwise. he was such a blubbering fool and so transparent that we all can see the corruption very clearly now. so for that, thank you bush. you can't win for losing! oh and on another whole topic. it does matter who gets elected because this can be a gentle, smooth transition or a violent, turbulent shift. if mccain gets elected we will surely have world war 3 on our hands. and they will start drafting us americans to fight their stupid war. that means that they can force me to fight or send me to prison. hell no! we won't go! take it light, foo
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